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It is actually a whole separate category of porn and it is actually one of the most popular categories of porn for men. I do watch porn sometimes but I never got any video recommendations from this catagory of videos, until a few days ago, when I was watching porn and I got a video recommendation titled "spying on my sister masturbating". I clicked on that video and I saw that there was not just one, but hundreds of videos of guys spying on women and voyeurism. There were videos of men being spied too, but it is a lot lot more of women getting spied by men.
There were videos of spying on women masturbating in a hotel room, there were videos of spying on women changing their clothes, there were even videos of spying on women urinating in public restrooms. Actually, the number of videos spying on women using public restrooms is disturbingly high. I was truly very disgusted after seeing it and I felt like what I thought about "privacy" and "my privacy" my whole life doesn't actually exist at all. I felt like not just me, but every single woman doesn't have any privacy at all and there is always atleast one camera lens pointing at us and recording us no matter what we're doing, even if we're urinating.
Last year, I went on a business trip with my colleagues for a week and stayed in a hotel. Throughout the week, I might have rubbed one out a couple of times. I go to swimming pools every week and I change there every time. I've also used public restrooms many many times, and to think that I might have been recorded atleast once doing any of these private things and someone is watching it and jerking off to it makes me depressed and disgusted at the same time.
Now I personally don't mind if they're all staged, but the titles and video descriptions try to convince men as much as they can that they're not staged, as though knowing that a woman's privacy is being snatched away and she's being recorded non-consentually will give men stronger orgasms, which is both disgusting and disturbing. I absolutely hate this and in my honest opinion, this promotes non-consentual recording of women and encourages men to plant cameras in women's restrooms and changing areas. The advancement of technology will only make it easier for men to do this filthy illegal stuff and it'll only make it harder for women to escape this. I know that personally, I can never use a public restroom ever again due to the fear of being recorded by a filthy predator. I got to know about this late, but I atleast I got to know about it now, so that I can somehow try to stay away from being recorded.
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I’ve been thinking about posting here for a while and to be honest - gonna try to just put it out there even though it’s oddly hard for me, haha - I was driven to do so now because I just finished masturbating to pornographic images. This whole subject is so confusing to me. I just heard about being sex-averse and sexual aversion disorder, maybe it’s something to do with that? I guess I’ll just get into some backstory (read: this could very easily turn into a long rant).
Ever since my first puberty (trans people on hormones gang?), I’ve masturbated. Who I experience attraction to, though, has always seemed to vary. There have been times when I’ve been solely attracted to females and there have been times when I’ve been solely attracted to males. These stretches have lasted from a month to a couple years. There was a time I went so long not feeling any attraction (not just to specific people, to clarify, but with the idea of it at all) that I did in fact identify as fully asexual.
I’ve looked at visual porn so few times in my life that I could probably count it on one hand. This, I’ve always thought, is probably in part due to all of the shaming of sexual activity that my mom has done throughout my life, particularly regarding my older sister. (Perhaps a psychological response here? Learned conditioning?) In middle school, I definitely read quite a bit of “smut fanfiction.” But to be completely honest, even while consuming these things, despite the rest of my body reacting with interest, there have always been thoughts of disgust in my mind.
This kinda leads into some kinks I’ve thought I’ve had. Maybe simultaneous “excitement” and thoughts of disgust lead to an assumption that I was into being shamed? Most prominently, though, I’ve always thought myself a voyeur. That’s because I’ve rarely ever imagined myself actually partaking in partnered sex. If I do, it’s always been from an outside point of view (like, I’m not in my own body). Anytime I’ve had any sort of sexual fantasy, it’s been followed by shame and disgust. Even kissing sounds sort of nasty (lol).
I just thought to add real quick - I’ve never been with anyone, romantically or sexually. I am an extreme romantic, though, and have definitely had crushes.
In regard to mental health, I’ve grown a lot over the past few months. And, especially since I’ll soon be off to college (the magical place where, so I’m told, I will experiment with and better understand myself), I’ve been trying to open up to the idea that maybe my distaste with sex is just a learned behavior that I can work to get rid of for the sake of the desires a part of me seems to experience. For the first time in my life, I’ve fantasized about being with real people; I’ve always felt waaaay too guilty about the idea to even consider it, but now I can do it and just get away with experiencing the intense guilt and disappointment after.
In all honesty, it’s kind of scary. It’s scary to imagine ever being with someone sexually in real life. It’s scary to imagine I might never be comfortable with or capable of fulfilling the sexual desires of someone I might eventually love.
Thanks to anyone who read this, and TIA for any words of wisdom you might be able to share. I sort of get the sense that asexuals are the most outcast-ish of the LGBT community, so if I can go to anyone with these weird concerns, I’d think it would be you guys. I hope I didn’t accidentally let anyone get too uncomfortable. And lastly, forgive me for any typos or weird wording - it’s late for me.
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2020.02.12 19:16 MagicPuffIsCool Voyeur masturbation sister

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2020.01.14 19:34 Rubberout Voyeur masturbation sister

Once the swing door passed, Juliette was assailed by the heaviness of the atmosphere, invaded by smoke from incense. Father Mairain had a heavy hand with regard to the offerings to the Lord. The church was empty as it should be … only the solar rays came to illuminate the biblical scenes, represented on the stained glass windows.
Here, Juliette felt good, at peace … finally freed from the demons who chased her, at any time of the day or night.
She trusted Robert, but it had to be said that her methods of making him recover the Way of God were particularly singular! However, thinking about it, it started from an irreproachable logic.
She had turned so far from her human nature, from her role as a woman, from her humanity, that she had to work hard to find them … otherwise she would experience the loss of her soul and her Salvation! Certainly, but everything that Robert made him do was disturbing! To walk naked under her clothes was confusing to say the least … and did the Church allow it?
Currently, Robert had ordered him to go to the church, completely naked under his beige overcoat … and there, Juliette wondered if all of this was really good, in accordance with the dogmas of the Holy Church!
But at least here, she was going to have the enlightened and neutral opinion of a true clergyman!
Father Mairain, a holy man if ever there was one, was busy replacing the candles on their candlesticks. When he saw this brunette with curly hair, thin and slender, stuck in his beige overcoat, his hands in his pockets, his eyes painful and his face closed, he thought that something was wrong!
At 63, after almost 40 years of officiating in different churches in France and Navarre, he had met some funny parishioners … he had a lot too.
He had noticed the attraction of a lot of women for ministers of religion … and for some like him, “ass” too!
Certainly the famous tendency of women to go towards the forbidden, the impossible … wanting to conquer impregnable fortresses … in appearance ?!
Anyway, the abbot had noticed that the most sluts, were at the start the most pious and boring of his parishioners, after a little psychological manipulation nevertheless. As if we had created a fault in a dam, having retained too long a large amount of unfulfilled desire and perversity, and that once the fault widened, everything came at once!
In short, the stuck brunette of about forty … he could smell her. – Hello, father, are you changing the candles?
– Not stupid, it is to square you very deep in your little pussy of giant clam frog, he wanted to answer! Instead:
– What can I do for you my child? Which way of Providence brings you to me, so early in the morning?
– Well indeed, I have a big case of conscience my father … and may be things to blame me!
– Come to my office.
She followed him and he made her sit in an armchair, opposite him, sitting behind his desk. He had a mini-camera arranged to have the vision on the crotch of these ladies … of which he could feast the eyes, thanks to the small monitor on his desk.
Unfortunately, the dildo kept the legs tight. No bottoms anyway, the legs were bare … he would have imagined her naked, in garter belts under her raincoat … you had to have confirmation. He got up, offering her a cordial, and already a hand on her shoulder, offered to remove her coat.
The woman stiffened, and cautiously surrounded her arms as if to protect herself … bet won! He was now sure she was completely naked under the raincoat. He gave her the cordial, which she swallowed quickly, and, giving her another, advised her to let go and relax … she was here in good hands!
As he had pushed the heating to the bottom, and the alcohol was starting to heat it up a little, the woman had to loosen the belt of her overcoat, and unbutton the top, revealing the top of her chest! Father Maurain was starting to get excited and bend hard!
– So my child, this problem of conscience?
After having related the episode of the bible which burned in her fingers, of its handling by her director of conscience, she stumbled to explain what consisted of “practical work”. The abbe felt that she was hiding something not very Catholic.
Not insisting, he proposed the confessional, where the beautiful could pour out on the wounds of his soul. Everyone, separated by the wooden partition, with the small trellis, the abbot could nevertheless see everything that was going on thanks to the two hidden cameras, above and below … there was some stuff in this confessional !
“Speak my child, it is God who listens to you through my ears. So this young man helps you to find the Way of Salvation. Good, but how does he do it?
– He explains to me that I had distanced myself from Humanity by conceited conduct, and that to find my soul, I had to plunge back into certain aspects of Humanity.
– Like what ?
– I’m a little ashamed … I think I made big mistakes. At the time, after a certain anxiety, I liked that, but now, in this church in the presence of you, my father, in the presence of God, I have the impression of having made a terrible error of judgment !
– Well my daughter, what exactly did you do? said the abbot, who was starting to get angry, about the woman’s lack of communication.
– I can’t bring myself to tell you about it … I’m too ashamed!
– Look, I think I understand your problem. What you have done is nothing, compared to what I see on your Path of personal life.
– Ah well, and what do you see my father?
– Hell under your feet, my poor girl! You are confessed, you do not trust me, and therefore you have no feeling of redemption. The Lord will hold it against you. I am beginning to understand what your thought director is trying to do.
You are so haughty, self-confident, individualistic and limited, that no more only Christian feelings pass through your soul. Pride is perhaps the greatest capital sin, which drives man to rise to the rank of God.
The vulgar creature tries to put itself at the level of its Creator. Do you understand my words well? If you persist in this lack of dialogue and openness, you are doomed to Perdition! Now describe to me the practical work, which your director of conscience advised you, to bring you back to what you really are: a poor creature, bogged down in guilty arrogance! “
The sermon had been so violent, and it echoed Robert’s arguments so well, that Juliette allowed herself to be destroyed by the validity of the priest’s declarations. Yes, indeed, she was bogged down in her Error. And she felt like she was sinking little by little into the hell of hell! Wiping a few sobs, she put on a face, and decided to confess everything to the abbot, in the smallest detail.
– My father, Robert, my director of conscience forces me to recover my humanity, and for that he engages in erotic games with me.
– Ah! We are coming. So what did you do with him, said the abbot, who was starting to heat up … once again his instinct had not deceived him! The fish was hooked, and he felt that the giant clam would soon open his thighs!
– He asked me to undress, installed me on his thighs and caressed my breasts. I felt a great shame, but also an ambiguous feeling of pleasure.
He ordered me to walk naked under my clothes, and spread my thighs to show him my cock, when we ate family, under the table.
And yesterday, after shaving my cock, he ejaculated on me, after asking me to masturbate, and then take me in the shower.
– So ? said the abbot, who had taken out his penis, and was beginning to caress himself, did you experience pleasure?
– Uh, yes my father. Lots, although this is all new to me!
– Perfect, you become human again. But now you’re going to leave your overcoat …
– But I can’t!
– Good, you will find yourself naked! And so, isn’t it the original nudity of Adam and D’Eve? Anyway, I can’t see you!
– How do you know ?
– I see through consciences, my daughter. Now, get down on your knees on the floor, facing the wall, spread your thighs and grab the little latch in front of your face! “
Juliette had indeed undressed, despite the fairly cold temperature of the church. She felt at the same time ashamed, but excited. After all, his abbot could only want the salvation of his soul.
She pulled on the latch which opened a hole ten by ten centimeters, and there appeared the abbot’s phallus in all its glory. Having understood what the abbot wanted from her, and taking advantage of yesterday’s lesson in the bathroom, she grabbed the scoop of flesh, and began to caress and manipulate it back and forth. A long moan answered his gesture:
– Now take it in your mouth, my daughter, and use your lips in a sucking reflex, as if you were eating an eskimo, amuse the glans with your tongue, and continue this delicious movement of your fingers on my penis. And keep going until I tell you to stop! Not before !”
She ran her fingers over the priest’s penis Even if she had to do it clumsily, at least he seemed satisfied. As for taking his phallus in his mouth, that she had never done, but as she felt confident, and that after all the argument of the priest stuck word for word with that of John, it was not done pray … and then she said to herself:
– But what does it feel like to have a man’s cock in his mouth … and when he ejaculates? As John did to me yesterday, on my breasts and my face, “she thought.
She told herself that she was making great progress to recover the path of her Soul! And also, she felt like a ball which weighed down in her stomach, as well as a tension at the level of her nymphs, which she had started to know well since two days!
– Name of God, but what a good sucker this Juliette! I was not mistaken … this small giant clam is easily malleable, and has the skills of a professional slut! But let’s not go too fast. The prey should not be startled. At this rate, I will not be long in letting go of the mash! “Thought Father Mairain.
And indeed, Juliette, who caressed the sex with one hand, while the other traveled more precisely on the abbot’s sex, was invaded in the mouth by a beautiful discharge of sperm! At the time, that made her cough and she had a little gagging, but very quickly she could feel the pleasant contact of this rod, which pulsed in her mouth, less and less powerful jets!
This put her in a kind of erotic trance, and she wanked the mold squarely, polishing her little button that had grown well, as well as her big lips. She moaned softly, eyes closed, mouth dripping with sperm, all her attention fixed on the pleasant sensations of her sex in heat!
The abbot, himself, was recovering from his extreme enjoyment, concentrating on the small monitor, located on his side of the confessional, which showed him a full and whole view of Juliette’s crotch; a Juliette on her knees, thighs wide apart, her cock wide open, her slit dripping with love juice, while her fingers took possession of her little treasure!
Finally came the long-awaited Ecstasy: Juliette enjoys as it had never happened to her, she uttered a shrill cry and collapsing on the floor of the confessional, she moaned continuously while hoarse complaints formed in her throat.
The abbot was amazed: never a girl from Burgundy lacking in sex and faith knew such enjoyment … and yet he had passed sluts in the process of being formed!
We needed a final to this little exercise, and above all to see the degree of obedience of the fucking apprentice. He then ordered him to leave the confessional:
– And all naked, my child!
– How? ‘Or’ What ?! Exclaimed Juliette, terrified of leaving the secret sanctuary, where she thought she was not being observed, and who gave her a certain impunity to cover her veil with shame:
– Yes, you understood me correctly …
– N … no, please!
– Good, then my chick, you go out or I come to seek you by the point of the breasts !! You have understood that you are speaking to a representative of God on Earth! He gave you strong enjoyment, now you have to thank him! “
Petrified, Juliette therefore left in the simplest device, in the nave of this church. She felt the icy stone under her bare feet, as well as a vicious air flow that came to touch the top of her legs, and cool the glowing star that still shone between her thighs!
The abbot was feasting on shamelessly ogling this sinner, and he appreciated their fair values ​​the heavy breasts with taut nipples, the flat stomach, the wide hips, the pubis with its metro ticket of black hairs, and the very red lips carmine sex.
“A beautiful little batch,” thought the priest!
So viciously, he made him travel the 12 stations of the Passion of Christ. And arriving in front of each, she had to kneel down, recite a Pater noster, while signing herself, before going to bed belly and breasts against the very cold church floor, as a sign of penance. She did not rebound, and the abbe even noticed that after the first shivering due to the cold, and the shame justified in being naked in a church, she seemed to float in a mystical and sexual trance. She seemed to languish in front of each image of Christ, even to identify with him!
Then the priest made her come before the Altar, and there he made her lie down on it, thighs wide open, in the direction of the East, towards Jerusalem! He presented the censer, which released the bewitching vapors of the incense, almost passed it over Juliette’s skin, so that it was sanctified and slightly heated by the craft!
Then he left it against the woman’s cock. It began to feel intense heat against her vulva, and she began to moan with pleasure and suffering. The father, raising his arms to the sky, facing the devotee naked before him, exclaimed:
– Oh Lord our God, I dedicate to you this creature which regains possession of the Temple of its body. She will enjoy all the pores of her skin in honor of your Name … and in her orgasms, she will be able to capture the beginning of the beginning of your Almighty, and generosity towards your creatures, poor men and women of flesh and blood, that we are. Praise be your name, Lord! “
He then grabbed the censer, which was starting to get very annoying for poor Juliette, the last penance for the sinner in the making! And grabbing the jug of mass wine, generously poured the contents in her mouth, on breasts, belly and sex of Juliette. Then he also took a good swig!
– This is the Blood of Christ, welcome it in your mouth and in your sex! “
Then seizing a host, he plunged it into Juliette’s slit, took it out coated with Cyprine and wine, cut it in half, and placed half of it in the mouth of the new lady, and the rest in his own:
“And this is the body of Christ, regenerated by the source of Woman’s Life!
Amen!
“Amen,” said Juliette. “
On the way home from her sister-in-law, Juliette felt light. All her doubts were gone, she again felt the ecstasy of walking in the footsteps of Christ! A sheet of paper in the pocket, with all the abbot’s instructions, for his next initiation session to the Regenerated Christian Religion!
The next day, pressed by her sister-in-law Clara and her husband Julien, Juliette invited her niece Marie to pose nude, or “assimilate”, in the small artist’s office where Clara had tried some sketches.
Robert, who was hidden in the adjoining room, and who watched everything that was going on there, thanks to a discreet slit in a molding, had tanned his submissive Juliette, so that she urged his wife to pose naked in front of her.
The two were a little disappointed when Marie , opening her bathrobe, under the spotlights, appeared in a very wise white swimsuit … she sat on the mattress nonchalantly, hands on the sheet. Juliette began to paint it.
In her heart, driven by a new desire to explore the unknown areas of her eroticism, she had hoped to see her young niece naked. This role of voyeur, new for her, would have ignited her new sensuality … but too bad. Her husband Julien, despite all his complaints, had not been accepted into the room, he who said he was a fervent art lover.
Robert was enjoying the fact that he had to work his brakes on not being able to attend the session!
After 20 minutes of a pose that quickly proved uncomfortable and painful, Marie asked for a break. Cursing her mother and her husband, who had almost forced her to engage in this degrading exercise for her, she covered herself in the robe and went to have tea in the kitchen.
On the table, she noticed a cell phone, it was her uncle’s. He started to beep loudly … once, then two and three times. Yielding to curiosity and temptation, she realized that he was in no way protected by a code, so she opened the messages.
What she saw did not put her in a good mood at all.
It was an SMS conversation between Julien and her own husband, spread over several days:
– So, are you going to send me this photo taken under the table? I want to know if you have won our little bet!
– A little my nephew! Here is the photo of your wife’s pussy. You see, thanks to me, she walks her pussy and boobs in the air under her skirt and her blouse! (In attachment a very beautiful visual on the sex still bushy of his aunt.)
– Ah yes, well done young man! What happens next? You are not going to deflate yourself at least!
– Not bad ! You really excited me. You will film the shaving scene tonight! And if you manage to bugger her, I want to come in her ass right after you … keep going!
– Here, this is the little film of what we did in the bathroom, last night. Damn, I shaved her pussy … you will see, you will love the metro ticket! I ejaculated on her, and finally I took her from behind in the shower! (In PJ, the famous movie of the bathroom.)
– Not bad, not bad, but you still haven’t fucked her!
– You’re looking for me Julien! In less than 48 hours, I find that it is already enormous. I did there what you have not done in 20 years with your wife. About “big mouth” … and mine, when do you fuck her? Huh, you bastard ?!
– Soon, soon, young man … I have my little plan!
– I don’t believe you, you will never get there!
– Here, Julien, here are his exploits from yesterday morning in the church, with Father Mairain! A real little vicious one! I’m still waiting for the movie where you fuck my wife! Already, if you can get her to put on a garter belt! (In PJ, the film of Juliette naked in the church, doing the stations before Christ, all naked … and the pagan celebration on the Altar!)
– I’m waiting for Julien!
– I’m still waiting, little dick!
Horrified, Marie could not help drinking the chalice to the dregs, watching the films. Humiliated, mortified by her husband’s vices, her infidelity with her own aunt, and the odious bet that made her a trophy to be shared between the two men, a sob shook her chest.
Then a cold determination took hold of her. She literally ran into their bedroom, rummaged in a drawer and came back down barely 8 minutes later. When she returned to the painter’s studio in a bathrobe, she asked her aunt if she could go and fetch her husband, who seemed to want to attend the painting session.
She also asked him to take his audiovisual recording equipment, as well as the small Polaroid, with which he enjoyed taking small photos for his pleasure.
Confused, Juliette went to get her husband. Meanwhile, Marie sat in front of the table in the mirror, and unpacking her makeup bag, began to compose the face that would perfectly accompany her future performance!
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2019.12.23 18:40 LoRa3159 Several experts testified that JonBenét was sexually abused before the day of his death. I would like to share some fragments from a French study that is interesting for this case: the eyes of a specialist educator faced with the problem of intra-family sexual abuse. VERY LONG POST

Edit : I apologize for my careless error in the title (His in place of Her). Of course Jonbenét was a little girl.
Source: https://yapaka.be/files/page/ article_labus_sexuel_intrafamilial_yapaka.pdf
• Introduction : Intrafamily sexual abuse is defined as any act with a sexual connotation with or without contact committed between members of the same family. It is most often the result of a parent (1ª, 2nd or even 3rd degree in direct line as in collateral line) on a non-consenting minor child whose psychoaffective and sexual development has not reached the required maturity. Despite the evolution of thoughts and practices intended to lift the veil of silence, as well as great legislative advances, intra-family sexual abuse would still be covered by the law of silence, secrecy, taboo and the unspoken. It is also clear that this subject challenges the fundamental image of parenting and the family. The consequences of incest would be all more serious if the child victim saw trust broken in a close relative yet loved, so that he would confuse love and hate, love and sexuality. *** Incest is a serious phenomenon that affects all social categories in a given society. *** Despite the shock it spreads, two major trends in societal reactions remain: trivialization or dramatization. The subject is limited to incest / intra-family sexual abuse given the fact that despite popular belief, it is a scourge which would involve in almost 90% of cases a close relative of the victim (and not a stranger to the family), and which would undoubtedly make public opinion and the authorities much more aware, in that it would be even more taboo than rape. This work is partly based on surveys of various professional stakeholders (including special educators). But each situation of intra-family sexual abuse should be considered and 'treated' as a unique case. Each victim would not react in the same way, so that the consequences of sexual assault would be multiple and variable from one person to another.
Incest is, according to some authors, a "psychic assassination" all the more if it is suffered very early and at a time when the child's personality is under construction (Frédérique Gruyer et al., 1991). Incest would be so traumatic that the victim would, in most cases, have to go into denial to survive. It is a defense mechanism that would be put in place relatively quickly and that would often cause the facts to be completely forgotten. However, the child could very well have the resources and resilience that would allow them to get out of it (Yves-Hiram Haesevoetz, 2003). Some children would thus heal alone in their silence thanks to this resilience. They would often go unnoticed and fight outside any medico-social and / or institutional system, while others would be traumatized throughout their lives (Jean-Yves Hayez, 2003). However, one should not think that the child victim of sexual abuse is essentially traumatized. Some of them do not experience it as a trauma. Some authors consider, however, that the earlier the abuse takes place, the more the risk that the trauma is irreversible in terms of the child's identity. Others consider that the gravity of the facts is at the origin of the gravity of the prejudices. Each case would be unique and the harm would vary from child to child, whether the facts were mild or extremely serious. Any resilient individual would thus have overcome his ordeal by having recourse to defense mechanisms that have enabled him to "hold on" (intellectualization, sublimation, altruism, humor or idealization.) However, resilience would not have been achieved without suffering and would not make the person invulnerable. Resilience would be built as we evolve and would put an end to the cleavage of personality. It would seem important to be able to adhere to the concept of resilience as developed by the author, so that our outlook as a professional can change as regards the defense mechanisms developed by victims of sexual abuse. Still often many individuals, professional or not, consider the victims of incest particularly vulnerable and likely to become abusive adults, without having prospects of getting out of their suffering. On the other hand, still a majority of individuals think, on the contrary, that the trauma experienced during early childhood would have no resonance on adult life, and that therefore it would be useless to talk about it. • Consequently, the silence and “collective denial” that victims of abuse would face would be sources of a second victimization. These reflections are the fruit of words often heard in an environment both private and professional, also reported by victims of incest in the context of television reports in particular. However, we could sometimes have to modify some of our conceptions or 'beliefs'. This requires questioning, which is not easy for everyone to do.
• Section 1 : Evolution of representations and social reactions to this problem. A large part of public opinion reduces sexual abuse to rape. This amounts to disregarding non-contact sexual acts (exhibitions, voyeurism, pornography.), Touching / masturbations, pathological (too frequent vulval toilets, repeated cleaning, enemas) and this until an advanced age of children), which would be just as traumatic. It is also customary to think that the child is pure, innocent, naive and vulnerable, therefore to overprotect at all costs (Hubert Van Gisjeghem, 1999). This is tantamount to forgetting the small percentage of false allegations of sexual abuse, which would often take place in the context of a conflict / marital separation. Many people still believe that sexual abuse only concerns the most disadvantaged social classes and even the countries of the “fourth world” (Jorge Barudy, 1997).
Besides, there is a very developed infantile sexuality in certain children, without it could seem contradictory to think that a child who speaks about sexuality has been abused, whereas we live in a society where sexuality is sometimes displayed everywhere and in any way. The abuser would be wrongly considered a monster, a psychopath, a mentally ill, an alcoholic, a stranger to the family, acting on a simple uncontrolled impulse. However, between 85% and 90% of sexual abuse situations involve a close family member. In addition, a large part of the abusers would be perfectly aware of their actions, of fine manipulators, without real mental psychopathology (source A.I.V.I.; Jorge Barudy, 1997; Daniel S. Halperin et al., 1997). Stereotypes are legion. Thus we would still too often tend to think that the abusing parents would necessarily have been mistreated and that the abused children would become abusive parents. However, according to studies by AIVI, if between 30 and 50% of the aggressors were themselves victims of sexual abuse in their childhood, a majority of them would not have been. Finally, many parents (in the event of sexual abuse by a grandparent, an uncle) would deny responsibility for what happens to their child, due to the fact that they confuse guilt and responsibility. This subject, still largely covered by taboo, silence, denial, would seem to upset us as well as disturb us, for fear of offending moral values. Let us not forget that precisely the silence would have led to the many brutal brutalities exposed in the institutions, because we thought, wrongly, that these things were « unimaginable », all the more in sectors considered as protectors of the childhood (Serge Lesourd et al., 2005). It would seem easier to talk about what the majority opinion wants / is ready to hear. Besides, it is a known fact that the press could tend to keep silent about information which is shocking or does not interest public opinion. This is what is known as the "spiral of silence". And yet, contradictorily as it might seem, for more than a decade we have been hearing and reading, perhaps wrongly and sometimes through, multiple cases of sexual abuse that would seem to move us deeply. What would revolt us would be the image or the representation we have of incest (Françoise Héritier et al., 2000). Consequently, the law of silence would govern both victims of sexual abuse and professional interveners, even if for the past twenty years victims have lifted secrets and taboos because of their courage to denounce the facts (Paul Bigourdan, 1989 ).
• Section 2 The ** 'typical profile' ** of the abusing parent: The abuser would often be manipulative and would hold the whole family under his or her control, while showing the image of an "impeccable" person on the outside. A family where barriers do not exist in promiscuity, where feelings are confused, interspersed with tenderness and hatred (Jean-Yves Hayez, 1994, p. 51). The abuser would have experienced serious emotional breakdowns and ruptures, possibly mistreatment, including sexual abuse. In any case, he would not have been able to know the limits and the prohibitions between the generations. His acting out would be based on his deep motivation to repair his old wounds, to restore his own identity with regard to his victim (s). He would impose secrecy by acting either by coercion and violence, or by seduction and blackmail. Even if the incest is more the work of skilled workers aged between 30 and 40, it would affect all socio-professional categories while being almost invisible in wealthy families (Albert Crivillé et al., 1994). The 'typical profile' of the abuser would be that of a person who would deny or trivialize the facts, feel no remorse or guilt. He would not be aware of the extent of the harm done to his victim, and would justify his act in the name of love. Even if the aggressor feels he is breaking a prohibition. Ultimately, he would consider his actions as "normal" (Jorge Barudy, 1994 and 1997). The author would have repressed his feelings of hatred and anger too long that he would destroy others without any empathy. In no case he would question or urge not to be aware of what he is transgressing, his family functioning, by reproducing that which he himself would have known as a child (Alice Miller, 1991). Very few would admit the facts. However, some attackers would be really sorry to have committed the same things despite their inner promise not to subject their child to what they themselves would have suffered (Yves Stevens, Catherine Denis, 2009).
According to a report on incest broadcast on May 4, 2010 on the Arte television channel, there are three categories of abusers:
• *** Immature neurotics (+/- 80% of the perpetrators), *** relatively crude but aware of the prohibitions and laws, without feeling like they are doing something wrong with their child. Faced with the silence both of the child, who would not oppose and speak of what he suffered, as of the wife, who would be little present emotionally and sexually, these people would feel free to continue their actions with impunity. They would have emotional deficiencies, problems with identification and limits, and would live in disadvantaged environments.
• *** The perverse intellectuals (between 10 and 15% of the authors), *** who would take advantage of the moments of absence (of the wife) and the wishes of the child faced with the discoveries of the body and sexual drives, to take action. They would manipulate their child, all the more if the child manifests a normal curiosity for sexuality as part of their development. They would be unsuspected and deny everything while not having the feeling of doing something wrong. They would deny everything “en bloc” during trials.
• *** Sadistic predators (+/- 5% of the authors), *** considered as "monsters", often without any judicial precedent and well integrated both in the family environment and in society. They would live in cleavage, passing from one character to another, with ease. They would enjoy making others suffer and would be real bullies in the family. They would be considered "with above average intelligence". ~
• Personal analysis.
John and Patsy Ramsey have always denied the sexual abuse, to use their words "it was inconclusive". Patsy will even say "there was no penetration". But when they talk about the killer profile, John uses the term "pedophile".
In my opinion, John is a very good liar and he proved, from the start, his manipulative skills. During various TV interviews, he leads and control the discussion, chooses his words after a period of reflection (however, they are often the same word for word statements) and he has some natural authority. He is very convincing and we are really tempted to believe him innocent. Patsy seemed obsessed with the image of a perfect and a loving family. Everything in Miss West Virginia breathes perfection.
The evidence, use of Patsy's personal objects, Patsy's jacket fibers and obviously the ransom note, suggests a primordial role in the staging of a sensational and shocking kidnapping perpetrated by “a small foreign faction ", “which hates their country” and is ready to" behead JB” if they violate the instructions and therefore warn the police. All this perfectly matches with Patsy's excessive personality & the vision of a 40-years-old housewife in the 90’s who imagine a kidnapping based on cultural stereotypes inspired by movie scenes. This delirious staging betrays the desperate state of mind of a completely panicked person unable to think rationally. The truth had to be hidden at all costs.
Linda Ardnt : “ When I spoke briefly with J. Ramsey on the morning of Dec 26, he was able to carry on a conversation and articulate his words. John Ramsey had smiled, joked and seemed to focus during the conversation”. When his daughter is missing, abducted in the middle of the night and while the threats evoke a decapitation ? And when his wife is upset, consumed by anxiety and gives the impression that her daughter will never come back? These are two completely opposite behaviors, the whole situation is really weird.
Officer French report: “Burke Ramsey was taken to the White’s residence as soon as he was dressed. I did not speak to him other than to walk him to Mr White's vehicle ", *** « and Mr Ramsey AGAIN told me that he had slept through the night » *** This event takes place about 1 hour after calling the police: John intervened twice to block the police from Burke. Why ?John Ramsey already had an idea of ​​what was really going on ? He suddenly guessed it between the call to the police and the departure of his son? Moreover, why John lies in his statements from Dec 26 (for ex, John had read to the children then JB was "asleep" 4 months later) if he was not aware of anything ? By analyzing his personality, I do not think that he would have been a passive actor by letting his wife engage on this delirious ground - staging - only to protect their son (or Patsy). Except, of course, if Patsy acted behind his back and slept all night to wake up the next day without suspecting anything OR if it is for a personal interest, protect himself ? Let's say he knows, why not follow the detailed instructions in the note and call Police while a body is still hidden in the house? He could have stopped his wife long before. There is a very big risk of raising suspicion about yourself. Being able to keep calm and appear natural under these extreme conditions and this pressure requires solid resistance and self-control.
1) If I summarize the events of Dec 25/26 : The Ramsey left the White family and returned home. Everyone went to bed (At that time John stated that he had read to the children, so JB was awake). The next day, Jonbenét has been kidnapped during the night and a ransom lies on the stairs. They acted like a "normal" family in this nightmarish situation, desperately asking help from the police - without telling them about the threats however : Patsy, distraught, calls immediately 911 as soon as they found the ransom note despite the death threats. When the time allowed for the call was exceeded, did one of the two express remorse at the fact that they may have condemned their daughter ? John, “cordial and smiling” seems to keep his cool. They heard nothing unusual during the night. John cooperates with the investigators providing Patsy’s and his own notepad. He provides names of people who may be suspicious, looks for his daughter in the house and makes a detour to his brother's bedroom - but without asking him questions. He removes his son in order "to protect him from a possible danger still present in the house”. Patsy dreading the worst, cries for her baby and prays for his return. (I believe in her pain of course). She warns several close friends of the family, seeking desperate support in this chaos and during the confrontation with the BPD. Finally, they raise the amount requested while awaiting with apprehension the call of the alleged kidnappers (always by answering investigators questions). A very lucky and disturbed intruder entered in this huge house during their sleep or before their return the day before ; -Taking the time to write a 3 page ramson note ultimately useless, -Taking the risk to leave evidence scattered around the house, -Using household items in his crime, -Taking the time to clean and dress the victim and ended up killing JB "because something went wrong" or "because someone really hated John". Finally, John accidentally "fell"on his hidden daughter's body. We know the rest.
Hypothesis and assumptions.
2) Patsy's plan (if John didn't know nothing when he woke up/- It also works if John knows, this plan remains very risky for both) : Suppose John decides to follow the instructions. If we consider that the initial plan was: John goes to the bank while Patsy can dispose of the body and throw it away - very dangerous but a logical plan in the continuity of a real kidnapping that would have gone wrong - and if the goal was to save time, the risk was really too great to go through with her plan : • testimonies from neighbors, • transporting the body in one of their cars (leave evidence for example or someone who recognizes the car), • possible unknown witnesses crossed anywhere, anytime • deposit the corpse in broad daylight, • Burke's presence in the house ; would she have kept him locked in his bedroom all along? While everyone was busy with their own job ? If burke was curious, he would probably have been "bulky" and embarrassing. Moreover, he could have involuntarily betrayed her. • the possibility of her husband's return home before her, • John’s children should also have been warned that they would not be able to end up in Michigan and explained to them why by finding a very convincing excuse.
[ First of all, how to explain the blow to the head and the sexual abuse? how to explain that Patsy (and John) did not warn the rescue at that time?] Once JB was strangled and then "settled" like a kidnapped victim, it was impossible to go back. We can then ask ourselves, how to explain the strangulation which occurred afterwards and the deliberate attempt to hide the sexual assault under a fallacious staging? Very difficult without appearing guilty, necessarily. Finally, John ruins Patsy’s efforts to dismiss him and the police. He tells her that she can call them.
Now suppose that John already knew about it the night before (and that Patsy or Burke is responsible for the blow to the head and the sexual abuse). Did John, a rational man, try to reason her without succeeding? Was Patsy able to manipulate John so easily that he didn't hesitate for a second to risk diving with her? Did John have to give in? I can hardly believe that she could have convinced him to strangle their daughter and then launch on a conspiracy that targets John in order to bury the truth. Even to protect Burke. The sexual abuse and the blow to the head were already very incriminating. Strangling JB meant a point of no return and could only worsen the situation. Wasn't he shocked or scandalized by what had just happened? or even hearing his wife come up with such a twisted plan? John’s calm and balanced demeanor on the morning of Dec 26 "proves that he has his head on his shoulders." The extravagant idea of ​​this ransom note and an abduction staging in an equally strange context is completely crazy.
Finally, let's assume that John is involved and that he is responsible for the sexual abuse and the blow to the head. Source : Expert reports, Doctor Reynaldo Perronne. http://psydoc-fr.broca.inserm.fconf&rm/conf/confagrsex/RapportsExperts/Perrone.html
I quote : • « In apparently well-structured families with a" normal "profile, it is the revelations of incest or sexual abuse that reveal the pre-existing dysfunction. The peculiarity of these families is, in fact, the discrepancy between the image given to those around them and what is happening inside. We must point out the restrictive characteristic of the image of well-being that the family offers outside: children are supposed to maintain it and bring their active participation to the mystification put up by parents or adults. »
• « Solidarity, family cohesion are put forward as priority objectives. For some mothers it is true that it is unimaginable, for others it is self-defeating blindness »
• « The predominance of the father is accompanied in this model by an effacement of the mother, who cannot then be of any help to her daughter. After the disclosure, some mothers keep their loyalty to their husbands. In most of the testimonies collected, we can also see how ghostly these mothers are: they do not see, do not hear, deny the obvious, as if they were facts taking place in a different would. If the mother is not dominated, she is at least withdrawn, at a distance, so that the fact that her daughter takes her place with the father becomes possible, thus occupying several functions at the same time: that of the daughter, the mother, the mistress… the father then becoming the husband, the lover, the child. Father and daughter share all the roles. »
• « Paradoxically, indifferentiation, present in family roles and functions, can leave intact an apparent parental and conjugal couple: this is sometimes, moreover, the only" survivor "of the disclosure of incest or sexual abuse. In all families with incestuous transactions, the prohibition of incest has shifted to that of speaking: it is forbidden to speak about it »
• « Little is said about the conjugal bond in families with incestuous transactions. But if the father and the daughter share all the places, if the daughter is put in the place of the mother, if she is the partner of the father, the conjugal bond can only be divested. A strong marital bond naturally forms a barrier to incest and the consistency would be that such a bond is incompatible with an incestuous interaction. It is therefore possible to assume that the incestuous problem is correlative to a problem of the couple. In some cases, the couple is characterized by low sexual activity corresponding to an implicit consensus of the two partners, a tacit arrangement in which each finds their own interest. In other cases, the husband has an explicit sexual activity that goes beyond the couple's territory. Privacy and limits are lost, and incest is a continuation of this conquering sexual activity without "separate object". Factors of fear or material dependence may be good reasons for the wife to accept the situation, but sometimes the father finds with his daughter what his wife refuses. The strength of this bond appears paradoxically at the time of the unveiling: it is not uncommon, indeed, that marital relations continue afterwards. Incest is then written, in a way, in the marital contract. In some cases, the conjugal couple is built on a configuration where the wife protects the husband as a tolerant and caring mother would. The father can then persist in his transgressions. His wife defines them as "forgivable" or understandable deviations »
• « The mother is attached to the idea of ​​a normal family, to family cohesion against everything. The material dependence of some women on their partner can be a hindrance to the emergence of any questioning of father / daughter relationships, which can endanger the apparent stability of the family. The law of secrecy serves to protect this family image from the outside and implies that the mother is deaf and blind to what is happening inside. Socially, many of these women are exhausted mothers, very busy with outside work. For her, there is an automatic selection of family perceptions and events accompanied by a reductionist thought . A disturbing detail, a father who locks himself up with his daughter in the bathroom for example, can be denied, forgotten, eliminated as information in order to obey the priority objective which is to maintain the status quo. So we can understand why some girls say that when they talked about what was going on, their mother did not listen to them. The mother's speech is then an omni-justifying speech. It is a speech of defense and survival, intended to ward off all attacks: "I was too busy ..., my husband had no sexual demands ..., the children had everything they needed ..., my husband spoiled them a lot… »
• « In summary, we can say that mothers, who are part of family systems where incestuous interactions occur, are typically "absent", reductionist in their perception, self-supporting and formally prioritize family cohesion »
Is it so "laughable" and "unthinkable" to imagine Patsy covering her husband? Did John Ramsey, a clever, thoughtful, calculating and rational man, capable of great control and placidity have the ability to manipulate Patsy? Fear of seeing the truth revealed about her family may have finally convinced her. Patsy may have felt mortified at the thought of the consequences if this secret was no longer one. But Patsy's plan then always seemed extremely dangerous, I wonder if finally John would not be the reason for this sudden change of plan?
From John’s and Patsy’s point of view, at that time if you had everything to lose IN ALL CASES, which solution would you choose between : 1) Call immediately 911, react like victims, cooperate, try to control a crime scene and the course of events in a place that you know very well - even with a body still in the house, (which will probably be found sooner or later- by himself !) and to simulate an abduction ? or 2) Act like murderers in plain sight (under the conditions describe above) follow the supposed initial plan (referring to the ransom note), go outside to look for a safe and deserted place, remain discreet under heavy stress - when you know you are doing something wrong, the fear you feel can increase tenfold if you imagine that someone can see you - to get rid of your little girl's body, risk being recognize by someone and confirm undeniably your guilt. If someone saw you and clearly identified you, what would happen?
The trap would close over you, your true nature would be revealed to the whole world. Your family would be shattered and your precious reputation would be definitively compromised. You would suffer shame, anger, hatred, dread and judgment from close relatives and strangers - maybe from an entire country and more. You would go to jail for a very long time and you would see your name and your family tainted over entire generations. You would lose ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
Patsy's brain is the driving force behind this dramatic staging ; John's calculated actions: STAND between the police and Burke, go down to the basement alone, act as naturally as possible, TRY to CONTROL the crime scene by finding JB's lying body and carrying it upstairs, INFLUENCE thoughts people, MANIPULATE the story, give the impression of trying, as he can, to catch up with his wife's messy plan. Doesn't it seem like both parents have played a role in the end? We can notice the change in John's behavior between the morning of the 26th and from the moment he discovered the body of his daughter. The cordial and cooperative John disappeared and gave way to a fleeing man, seeking to escape justice, barely 40 minutes later, while trying to take a flight to Atlanta. Since then, John has continued to take everything in hand, putting up an aggressive resistance between his family and the police.
By distorting the truth, spreading blatant lies, manipulating and deceiving public opinion, refusing to speak to investigators for 4 months, pretending to be victims, denouncing the constant/aggressive harassment of the police to make them guilty and their inability to carry out this investigation ; By obviously relying on their flawless image, impeccable reputation and social position, social and professional connections, the unfailing support of some of their friends and family, their faith, their money and their teams of lawyers, the Ramsey tried by all means to bury the truth about JB's death. Do they still look so innocent in people's eyes? Do people still have any doubts about their honesty and their implication in JB’s death ?
• Discussion questions. I have my opinion on these questions but I would really like to know your thoughts.
1) Do you think that John's personality could correspond to a "typical profile" of an abuser?
2) In my opinion, the purpose of the ransom note was to deceive the investigators about the true reason for JB’s death, and therefore to hide the sexual abuse which had just occurred. And if, based on what the evidence suggests, Patsy did the staging and actually cleaned the vaginal area, so she knew about it. If John is responsible for the previous sexual abuse and assault on the night of Dec 25, do you think he could have manipulated his wife the same way ? Could he have lied about what really happened or swore that it was the first time or that he did not understand why he had gone astray? Could he pretend to be a victim ? Could he have blamed JB or Patsy?
3) Could he have told his wife that Burke was responsible and keep that lie untouched until Patsy's death?
4) I did not consider this case but suppose he did nothing and discovered the truth much later in the morning. Once again why lie so early in his statements ? Didn't he recognize his wife's handwriting before allowing her to call the police ? I can hardly imagine it anyway, it seems unlikely to me. If it was Burke, would Patsy have tried everything to protect her son without telling John? The risk was completely oblivious. How to be sure he was actually going to follow the ransom note (with codes hidden in the letter ?!) And, indeed, he did not. How to be sure he would blindly follow her in this madness if he understood what really happened ? Unless Patsy is counting on a miracle from God ?! After all, he had already saved her from cancer.
• I have a little trouble with the BDI theory. I am not against the idea that he could have killed his sister and that his mother could have covered him and worked out a staging without saying anything to John. It was still a very big risk (for her first, and for JB, if John actually REALLY BELIEVED in her kidnapping) since the latter did not respect the instructions despite the insistent warnings. But I do not subscribe to some BDI theories: in particular about the doubtful experiences on his unconscious sister’s body, or that he did the staging alone. John's behavior bothers me deeply.
Thank you and sorry for the novel.
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- To stop seeing women being treated as objects by the porn industry
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- The porn industry, labeled as "Adult industry", contributes to make politicians and bureaucrats to force teachers to cut sexual education in science lessons so that children are exposed to pornographic images at a much younger age
- What is "Adult industry" supposed to be? A more formal way to pronounce pornography? What is so adult and mature with it? I find porn very immature!

- Parents should be more cautious about their children
- Porn shows where the male genitals go, where it basically shouldn't be
- Porn shows what the female genitals could be filled with, which biologically should not
- Porn producers don't care about your feelings
- Porn producers don't care about your relationship
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- That is why pornography is viewed by religions and many cultures as a fundamental destructive force to eradicate one's life and from society.
- Porn is Satan's work
- Porn is portrayed as a "depiction of sexual material with the exclusive purpose of sexual arousal", but when it gets too much, you go too far beyond what is obviously not supposed to make you horny
- Porn is the devil's compliment to liberalize immoral acts
- Porn is the devil's compliment to make sex in western movies more open and accessible
- Porn ruins lives

- Porn slows evolution and re-production. Thus, have you ever thought that all these men and women in porn movies could have been anyone else today and had children instead of exposing themselves naked and penetrated in front of the camera, in front of millions of viewers?
- How would the world become if pornography did not exist? Could you live in a world in the form of an innocence-utopia where nudity could only be exposed privately among married couples?
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- If you want to end the devil's game, you can turn to your creator, to your God and focus on improving yourself mentally. If you are not religious you can try many other ways
- But it's not just porn that is Satan's work, it's today's music videos where the context is "sex sells"
- Music videos where women are themselves sex objects and the lyrics that are targeting sex

- One would think that men engaged in porn but women are also guilty of this industry whether they are there on purpose to sell their bodies for cash on camera, or because she thought she could be a model, or she was compelled by force against their own will. Or is it because of threat or being a victim of human and sex trafficking
- In example: pornstar KM faces porn because she had huge debts after she was arrested for sneaking illegal marijuana into a US state. Now she is happily making immoral incestuous scenes
- Pornstar RF has experienced financial crisis when she lost a job at a bank and turned to porn. She now does the same as KM, happy and immoral
- Pornstar MK thought she was going to do modeling when she was a young woman from art school, but was eventually threatened and forced to act with a hijab in a porn scene to provoke Muslim cultures. That is her career today
- Pornstar RR regrets acting on stage because she would not do this in the first place and had no alternative careers to choose once she in the industry
- Pornstar AA commited suicide after she discovered the darkest side of the porn industry and today they are still earning money from her death

- In a porn scene, there is fake laughter, fake flirtation, false intentions, fake sex, fake orgasm, fake body parts, and photoshoped photos.
- In a porn scene women use 1 ton of makeup a year and the experience is fake
- In a porn scene you always expect how it ends and as I wrote above, this industry is not innovative
- Of all the videos I have seen, they were all remakes and therefore not innovative
- All porn scenes are so fake that other actors who do not have a starring role acts as the world's dumbest people
- It is well understood with the naked eye that pornography is trying to hide prostitution, sex trafficking, taboo-related incidents, women humiliation and abuse of young people as a category or fantasy, which is immoral, humiliating and absurd. Porn makes this seem ordinary and the media don't care
- Porn can make you open minded in a way that you and your wife, GF or partner would sleep with others
- Have you ever thought about what pornstars do? THEY ACT! Acting is theater. Acting is based on a fantasy and is not real. That is all what they do! While the pervert sitting and directing, the producer who is producing, the cameraman filming the action, the photographer taking pictures and photoshops them to capture people's attention and YOU who jerks-off, especially YOU, are watching this along with the aforementioned!
- The porn industry produces scenes where teens who look younger than the legal age and label it "barely legal". That is disgusting!
- The porn industry is contributing to make today's taboo incidents like incest and sex with the step-sibling popular among categories. How the fuck did that start?
- Porn makes young teenage boys horny on their best friend's moms because she may still look gorgeous at her age and they would literally jerk-off when their friend would know nothing about it
- If you continue with porn, you go beyond what you consider immoral

- You watch somebody's daughter being abused and exploited so hard because she has been threatened or forced against her will. Think about that! What if it was your daughter who was on set, how would you react?
- You watch somebody's son being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if it was your son?
- You watch somebody's wife being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if it was your soulmate?
- You watch somebody's sister being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if it was you sister?
- You watch somebody's brother being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if was your brother?
- You watch somebody's mother being abused in the same way. How would you react if it was your mother?
- GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!

- Of all that is immoral, wicked, banned and porn today is as follows: "intercourse with your mother, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship (..) and women whom your fathers married". [Inspired from Surah 4: An-Nisa (The women), Ayah 4:23, in the Qu'ran]
- Porn makes man fall to the bottom
- It makes man avoid his dreams and goals in life
- Because of porn, I lose confidence
- Because of porn, I have a brainfog
- Because of porn I use my hands to grab my ding-dong
- Because of my addiction I have lost my pride
- Because of porn I lost control and easily went on alternative search engines to seek out pornographic images
- Because of my mistakes and not being strict to myself, I easily relapsed just before the exam
- And because of porn, I don't know who I am today

Finally, now that I am honest with myself, I want to touch the thigh of a young woman at my age and think that I will be satisfied by that touch. But the reality is that I would not feel anything because I am the one will touch her. An addict who is abstaining from porn, masturbation and self pleasure, and where one of the side effect from abstaining is to strive for female touch.
However the point is to give an effort to strive for a better person in later days. Focusing on women would lead to failures. With PIED and PE, I would undoubtedly ejaculate in my pants as soon as I feel excited because the brain is not fully recovered.
In conclusion I'll be patient with myself to achieve recovery, to achieve success, to achieve the man I want to become.
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2019.12.01 18:54 that_wise_guy_97 Masturbation sister voyeur

- To stop seeing women being treated as objects by the porn industry
- Because when you see an 18-20 year old woman being abused as an object, producers show a teenager who looks like a child is being sexually abused
- Because the porn industry treats women like a sex box
- Because porn promotes rape
- Because porn promotes child abuse
- Because porn promotes sexual abuse and sexual assault
- Because porn helps humanity drive adultery and infidelity
- Because porn spreads lies about sex
- Because porn makes some addicts lose their virginity to an escort
- Because porn also spreads lies in the form of feelings between men and women
- Because porn makes you lose your confidence
- Because porn makes you stupid and uncommunicative
- Because porn leads to masturbation, which leads to the loss of valuable energy
- Because porn makes the brain fill an unusual and highly concentrated dopamine rush
- Because porn destroys brain cells by filling the memory with unnatural images
- Because porn damages your brain and touch your emotions
- Because porn leads to binge watch at unreal women trough a screen, while real female humans with souls, minds and emotions roam the earth
- Because porn catches you in its world and throws you in an invisible prison
- Once porn has caught you, you strive to feel female touch, and if you don't put a stop to that system, you'll never break free and tear down the prison
- But it's not about women and genuine relationship, it's about who you are today, who you could have been if you never have discovered porn at a young age, and who is the ideal person you want to be
- Porn transforms you into Beta, while you could for an extended period be an Alpha
- Like Hollywood-movies, porn has never been innovative, it always shows the same repetitions
- The porn industry, labeled as "Adult industry", contributes to make politicians and bureaucrats to force teachers to cut sexual education in science lessons so that children are exposed to pornographic images at a much younger age
- What is "Adult industry" supposed to be? A more formal way to pronounce pornography? What is so adult and mature with it? I find porn very immature!

- Parents should be more cautious about their children
- Porn shows where the male genitals go, where it basically shouldn't be
- Porn shows what the female genitals could be filled with, which biologically should not
- Porn producers don't care about your feelings
- Porn producers don't care about your relationship
- Porn producers do not care about your ideas, opinions and complaints whether you are an abuser, voyeur or actor. They will take your valuable time and money
- Porn producers are supported by sexologists and I will never visit one again in my life
- In addition to sexologists, both the porn industry and sex doctors contributed to the spread of the lie that masturbation is healthy
- Porn industry and sexologists bully and defame NoFap founder Alex Rhodes
- The porn industry spreads lies and false rumors about Alex Rhodes, NoFap, Fight The New Drug (in addition to Brain Heart World and Truth About Porn), Covenant Eyes, etc
- The porn industry might have a double agent in this community to monitor us and our behavior. Who knows?

- Porn should never be allowed
- Porn is prohibited in the Arab world and large parts of Africa and Asia for many good reasons: nudity, infidelity and adultery, abuse, the transferring and spreading of diseases. It violates human relationships, it leads to rape and other sexual violence. It degrades women and men, provoke the culture of the other (like using hijab on stage), it violates the sexual and ethical virtues of others, it violates human dignity and modesty, it takes away your self control and you do not become aware of where you put your private part.
- Porn leads away your state of purity and innocence
- Porn creates a state of tension that leads to destruction of the soul, which leads to sadness and depression and loss of self-esteem.
- That is why pornography is viewed by religions and many cultures as a fundamental destructive force to eradicate one's life and from society.
- Porn is Satan's work
- Porn is portrayed as a "depiction of sexual material with the exclusive purpose of sexual arousal", but when it gets too much, you go too far beyond what is obviously not supposed to make you horny
- Porn is the devil's compliment to liberalize immoral acts
- Porn is the devil's compliment to make sex in western movies more open and accessible
- Porn ruins lives

- Porn slows evolution and re-production. Thus, have you ever thought that all these men and women in porn movies could have been anyone else today and had children instead of exposing themselves naked and penetrated in front of the camera, in front of millions of viewers?
- How would the world become if pornography did not exist? Could you live in a world in the form of an innocence-utopia where nudity could only be exposed privately among married couples?
- Porn is creepy
- Porn makes you a creep
- Porn is satan dancing on your soul
- Porn is Satan who looks forward to torturing and abusing your soul in hell
- Porn is satan that violates your honor and your pride
- Continuing to look at porn, you allow the devil to breakdance inside you
- Your body keeps your soul trapped on earth and it is your soul that is being evaluated in the afterlife
- Be aware that porn is not just Satan's work, liberals are also complicit. I mean have you seen The Young Turks lately? A real and huge shame I must say
- If you want to end the devil's game, you can turn to your creator, to your God and focus on improving yourself mentally. If you are not religious you can try many other ways
- But it's not just porn that is Satan's work, it's today's music videos where the context is "sex sells"
- Music videos where women are themselves sex objects and the lyrics that are targeting sex

- One would think that men engaged in porn but women are also guilty of this industry whether they are there on purpose to sell their bodies for cash on camera, or because she thought she could be a model, or she was compelled by force against their own will. Or is it because of threat or being a victim of human and sex trafficking
- In example: pornstar KM faces porn because she had huge debts after she was arrested for sneaking illegal marijuana into a US state. Now she is happily making immoral incestuous scenes
- Pornstar RF has experienced financial crisis when she lost a job at a bank and turned to porn. She now does the same as KM, happy and immoral
- Pornstar MK thought she was going to do modeling when she was a young woman from art school, but was eventually threatened and forced to act with a hijab in a porn scene to provoke Muslim cultures. That is her career today
- Pornstar RR regrets acting on stage because she would not do this in the first place and had no alternative careers to choose once she in the industry
- Pornstar AA commited suicide after she discovered the darkest side of the porn industry and today they are still earning money from her death

- In a porn scene, there is fake laughter, fake flirtation, false intentions, fake sex, fake orgasm, fake body parts, and photoshoped photos.
- In a porn scene women use 1 ton of makeup a year and the experience is fake
- In a porn scene you always expect how it ends and as I wrote above, this industry is not innovative
- Of all the videos I have seen, they were all remakes and therefore not innovative
- All porn scenes are so fake that other actors who do not have a starring role acts as the world's dumbest people
- It is well understood with the naked eye that pornography is trying to hide prostitution, sex trafficking, taboo-related incidents, women humiliation and abuse of young people as a category or fantasy, which is immoral, humiliating and absurd. Porn makes this seem ordinary and the media don't care
- Porn can make you open minded in a way that you and your wife, GF or partner would sleep with others
- Have you ever thought about what pornstars do? THEY ACT! Acting is theater. Acting is based on a fantasy and is not real. That is all what they do! While the pervert sitting and directing, the producer who is producing, the cameraman filming the action, the photographer taking pictures and photoshops them to capture people's attention and YOU who jerks-off, especially YOU, are watching this along with the aforementioned!
- The porn industry produces scenes where teens who look younger than the legal age and label it "barely legal". That is disgusting!
- The porn industry is contributing to make today's taboo incidents like incest and sex with the step-sibling popular among categories. How the fuck did that start?
- Porn makes young teenage boys horny on their best friend's moms because she may still look gorgeous at her age and they would literally jerk-off when their friend would know nothing about it
- If you continue with porn, you go beyond what you consider immoral

- You watch somebody's daughter being abused and exploited so hard because she has been threatened or forced against her will. Think about that! What if it was your daughter who was on set, how would you react?
- You watch somebody's son being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if it was your son?
- You watch somebody's wife being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if it was your soulmate?
- You watch somebody's sister being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if it was you sister?
- You watch somebody's brother being abused and exploited in the same way. How would you react if was your brother?
- You watch somebody's mother being abused in the same way. How would you react if it was your mother?
- GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!

- Of all that is immoral, wicked, banned and porn today is as follows: "intercourse with your mother, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship (..) and women whom your fathers married".
- Porn makes man fall to the bottom
- It makes man avoid his dreams and goals in life
- Because of porn, I lose confidence
- Because of porn, I have a brainfog
- Because of porn I use my hands to grab my ding-dong
- Because of my addiction I have lost my pride
- Because of porn I lost control and easily went on alternative search engines to seek out pornographic images
- Because of my mistakes and not being strict to myself, I easily relapsed just before the exam
- And because of porn, I don't know who I am today

Finally, now that I am honest with myself, I want to touch the thigh of a young woman at my age and think that I will be satisfied by that touch. But the reality is that I would not feel anything because I am the one will touch her. An addict who is abstaining from porn, masturbation and self pleasure, and where one of the side effect from abstaining is to strive for female touch.
However the point is to give an effort to strive for a better person in later days. Focusing on women would lead to failures. With PIED and PE, I would undoubtedly ejaculate in my pants as soon as I feel excited because the brain is not fully recovered.
In conclusion I'll be patient with myself to achieve recovery, to achieve success, to achieve the man I want to become.
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