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2020.07.15 16:58 familyoftina Sandra nude mom

TLDR In 1997, when I was 9, my 2nd cousin who was 19 was murdered.
Her murderer tried to throw off police by making it look like a cult murder by carving a strange symbol into her body.
The police think they know who the suspect is but 24 years later and still no arrest.
Her mother just died a few weeks ago never having closure. I'm trying to renew interest in the case.
Intro I'll try to make this short.
I feel bad as I've been meaning to post this since I found out, but life gets in the way.
I live near Fort Smith, Arkansas.
A few weeks ago my mom told me about a family member being admitted to hospice.
I'm an only child and my mom is from a family of 5. So she's used to keeping track of everybody.
She mentioned "Yea, they never figured out about who killed Sandra's daughter,'s sad."
I was curious and that's when she showed me this newspaper clipping she had saved.
Quick Facts

Other information Tina's dad is still alive though I'm not sure I've ever met him. But I've heard he's worked his whole life trying to solve this.
I think the most frustrating thing is that this article was published 4 years after it happened and the DA even THEN said:
" It is safe to say that we have a suspect, but our evidence is insufficient to go forth with the prosecution, and I am not in a position to publicly identify the suspect.”
And 23 years later still nothing.
I figured the least I could do was post it here and ask the reddit community for their insight.
I don't expect miracles but I figure it's worth a shot.
Relations Tina = Victim
Chad = Boyfriend
Sandra = Tina's mother
Max = Tina's father
Debbie = Max's 2nd s.o./gf
Jeannie = Max's 3rd s.o./gf
Me = 2nd cousin to Tina
Timeline 1994
May 1996
August 1997
October 1997
November 3rd 1997
Unofficial list of suspects Chad Franks (Boyfriend)
Items of note
Debbie (Max's 2nd SO/GF)
Items of note
Present Day Communication 07/14/2020
After posting this, my mom talked with Sandra's sister.
"Now Max's wife Jeannie I feel in no way she was involved. I have met her and spent nights at their house when they lived in Florida.
Now the ex of Max's was a woman named Debbie. Now she was a suspect at a time I believe. I did meet her and she was jealous of Tina's relationship with Max, I feel. But she has since died in a car wreck. I have always felt it was her that did it. But the sheriff's office kept saying no concrete evidence but Max even believed it was her."
Another message from Sandra's sister to my mom.
"I can't remember if she [Debbie] had a alibi, I will look in my papers tomorrow, ( [redacted] is asleep, he works nights ) I can't get to them right now.
As far as I know the autopsy report showed gunshot wounds"
The story from the 2001 article Four years ago today, (Nov 3, 1997) the partly clothed body of Tina Michelle Payton, 19, was found on the living room floor of the farm house on DeKalb County 104 between Geraldine and Crossville that she shared with her fiance.
Payton had been shot in the hand, in the chest and in the head with a .38- or .357-caliber pistol. On her lower abdomen, carved with a knife or other sharp instrument, was a pattern of lines that appeared to form a cryptic symbol.
The gunshot through Payton’s hand was what investigators called a β€œdefensive wound” because it appeared that she had grabbed the gun that killed her.
The doors were locked and there were no signs of forced entry. Payton lay on her back, nude below the waist, with the symbol clearly visible to anyone who entered the room.
The orderly appearance of Payton’s body and the symbol standing out against her skin led homicide detectives and the state pathologist to the same conclusion - that the woman’s killer had put her body on display and arranged the scene for maximum visual effect.
β€œThe symbol was clean, not bloody,”
District Attorney Mike O’Dell said.
β€œIt was clearly intended to be seen. Somebody meant to send a message.”
From that first day, investigators began a dual quest - to find Payton’s killer and to find the meaning of the symbol the killer had left as a signature.
They sent pictures of the symbol to experts in satanic worship, gang culture and tribal rituals.
Copies made it onto the Internet, and responses came in from many parts of the world.
In spite of hundreds of leads, investigators still do not know what the symbol means, if anything.
And in spite of a four-year investigation that has led to at least four states, nobody has yet been charged with the murder.
The house where Payton was killed had been her home for only about three months.
Her father, Max Payton, had bought the house and five acres in 1994 after he retired from the Air Force.
Payton, Max Payton’s daughter from a previous marriage, moved there in August 1997 from Sallisaw, Okla., where her mother lives and where she graduated from high school in 1996.
Her father said she had come β€œto start a new life.”
She took a job as a cashier at Geraldine Super Value.
Payton continued to live in the house after her father took a job at Tyndall Air Force Base in Panama City, Fla.
Less than a month before the slaying, Chad Franks, 22, moved from Sallisaw to live with Payton.
The two had had a lengthy on-off relationship, friends in Sallisaw said.
β€œTina and Chad planned to get married,” Max Payton said.
β€œI was going to give them the farm, but I never got a chance to tell her.”
It was Franks who found Payton’s body, when he returned from his second day on the job at a mobile home factory in Boaz.
He said he had left at 6:15 a.m. and returned at 4:18 p.m. Pathologists estimated that Payton died at 9 a.m.
Sallisaw is in the heart of Indian country, and Franks is a Cherokee Indian.
Those facts first led investigators to think that the symbol could have some ritual significance in Indian culture, and that Payton’s death may have resulted from trouble that had followed her and Franks from Oklahoma.
Franks was taken into police custody the same day that he reported Payton’s death and was questioned for several days.
He was released without charges and attended services for Payton in Oklahoma, where she was returned for burial.
Investigators say Franks later joined his parents in the Midwest.
Four years after Payton’s slaying, both her father and DeKalb County prosecutors have a single strong suspect in mind, but said they do not have enough evidence to put anybody in jail.
Since the slaying, investigators have narrowed their search and discounted some earlier theories.
They no longer believe the case is tied to Oklahoma or to the occult.
And although an empty condom wrapper was found beside Payton’s body, O’Dell said she had not been sexually assaulted.
β€œWe have come to the conclusion that this was not a gang or cult symbol, but that it had specific meaning to the perpetrator,” O’Dell said.
β€œThis was not a random act, but an attack directed specifically at Tina Payton, probably by someone she knew.”
O’Dell said the case has remained active and that he and Sheriff Cecil Reed discuss the case with their investigators often.
β€œThis case has gnawed at us since it happened,”
O’Dell said.
β€œIt is safe to say that we have a suspect, but our evidence is insufficient to go forth with prosecution, and I am not in a position to publicly identify the suspect.”
Max Payton is also frustrated that his daughter’s killer has not been caught.
β€œEvery time I see those crime shows on television where modern forensics solve cases with almost no evidence to go on, I get angry all over again,”
Payton said.
β€œI think more should have been done in all this time.It’s been four years.”
O’Dell said he shares those frustrations.
He said Payton has been very helpful in the investigation, traveling from Florida several times to meet with detectives on the case.
β€œWe have a lot of circumstantial evidence, but I don’t want this case to turn out like O.J. Simpson’s,”
O’Dell said.
β€œI am not going to charge and risk that the guilty person will get away. I want a conviction.”
O’Dell said his office has prosecuted about 30 homicides in DeKalb and Cherokee counties since Payton’s slaying, keeping investigators busy.
β€œWe have been overwhelmed just with new cases, but that is about to change,”
O’Dell said.
β€œWe now have time to sit down and re-evaluate the Payton case, to see if there is anything there we’ve been missing.”
O’Dell said he thinks investigators are getting close to breaking the case, by uncovering new information and by finding witnesses who know something about the case that they have not reported.
β€œI am confident that we will have enough to bring this case before a jury soon,”
O’Dell said.
Meanwhile, Max Payton is planning to come home to Alabama.
He has sold the Sand Mountain house where Tina was killed to a neighboring poultry farmer and bought a house and acreage on Lookout Mountain in Cherokee County.
He and his wife, Jeannie, plan to move here from Florida by spring.
β€œI want to move back close to home and I want to get some new interest in Tina’s case,”
he said.
β€œShe meant more to me than anything in the world, and I want the person who took her from me to be brought to justice.”
Gov. Don Siegelman has offered a $5,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Tina Payton’s killer.
Anyone having information is asked to call the case agent, investigator Clay Simpson, at the DeKalb County Sheriff’s Department, (256) 845-8562.
1998 article updated in 2019 SALLISAW -- Sandy Williams visits her daughter's gravesite regularly.
She wants to put a fence around the marker and maybe get a tombstone up there soon, but the weather has made it impossible to do much. ``It's been tough with all the rain,'' she said.
This week marks the first anniversary since her daughter, Tina Payton, was found shot to death at her home in Crossville, Ala. The 19-year-old Payton had recently moved to Alabama from Sallisaw, where she grew up.
The slaying attracted international attention because of a strange symbol that had been carved into Payton's abdomen.
Investigators in Alabama have yet to determine what the symbol means.
For Williams and Max Payton, Tina's father, that is the least of the mysteries related to their daughter's killing.
Their biggest questions have remained the same since Nov. 3, 1997 -- who killed her, and why haven't law officers moved more quickly to make an arrest?
DeKalb County, Ala., sheriff's investigators say they have made the case a priority in their office, yet Sheriff
Cecil Reed acknowledged that they don't have much to show for it. They have no murder weapon, no idea what the symbol means and not much hope so far of making any arrest stick.
It's this perceived lack of movement that has frustrated Williams and Max Payton.
They said investigators in Crossville kept talking for months about how close they were to nailing down the case. Now, Tina's parents said,they can hardly get the Sheriff's Office to call them back.
``To me, they're dragging their feet,'' said Williams, who lives in Sallisaw. ``They were saying they were 99.9 percent sure they knew who did it, and yet they haven't made an arrest. I want to know why.''
Max Payton said he has the same question. However, he also wants the sheriff's investigators to move carefully so they won't jeopardize the case.
``They have a prime suspect,'' said Payton, who lives in Panama City, Fla.
``I've been told that by (investigator) Clayburn Simpson and by the sheriff.'' Simpson said in May that the probe had focused on a single suspect but that an arrest would have to wait until after forensics test results returned sometime during the summer.
``I hope very shortly that I can tell you we've made an arrest and who it is,'' he said then. Six months later, the forensics results are back, but investigators have no more evidence than they did before.
Reed said his office has not turned up any weapons or any additional tips that would lead to a break in the case.
``We don't have any hard-core evidence,'' he said.
Deputies arrested Payton's boyfriend, Chad Frank, early in the investigation. Frank was released after several days because investigators said he had an alibi.
Reed said solving Payton's murder is his office's highest priority. Even so, the sheriff said he understands her parents' frustration.
``I would be, too,'' he said. ``I'm frustrated with not having a shred of evidence.''
Reed pointed to another recent murder investigation in his county as reason for optimism in Payton's case. His officers made an arrest this summer in connection with a 1995 double slaying.
``So we never give up,'' he said. ``As long as I'm sheriff, this case will not put on a back burner.''
Payton's parents, meanwhile, want to keep her memory front and center. They both recalled a daughter who loved life and was excited by her prospects in Alabama.
``She had gotten a job there in Crossville at a little grocery store, and she really enjoyed her job,'' Max Payton said. ``Tina was an outgoing-type person who loved being with people.''
As the anniversary of her death rolled around, Tina's parents, who are divorced, dealt with her memory in their own ways. Williams tended to her daughter's gravesite, while Max Payton tried to think more about his daughter's living milestones, like her birthday.
``It's not something to celebrate,'' he said of the date of her death.
But it's something he certainly will not forget. Investigators may have reached a standstill in finding Tina's killer, he said, but anyone who knows anything about the crime has a responsibility to make a stand.
``There's a murderer on the loose,'' he said.
My opinion on the symbols I put this last because it's just my opinion, it doesn't matter much. My personal opinion is that the person who killed her didn't even know why they carved those symbols into her body. Maybe as an afterthought?
Maybe they were trying to make their murder more "sophisticated" than they originally intended? The investigators said it was clearly "on display". But why?
If it has no real discernable meaning? "Art" maybe?
Maybe to frame the native American side of the family?
In the research I've done about this case since learning about it, I think the killer succeeded in what they meant to do with it: to throw people off and send them down a rabbit hole.
Just my first gut feeling of speculation.
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2020.04.27 16:27 thearticulategrunt Sandra mom nude

So I do believe I have detailed before how I wound up going into the Army in the first place. If it's not in the thread poke me and I'll do that next.
Anyway, during the time I had crawled into a bottle I did have a "bounce back" girl. It was hot and crazy/stupid and we actually got engaged. Now her dad was a retired Infantry Command Sergeant Major who had married a German national and settled in Germany after he retired.
About two months into basic/AIT I got summoned to the Company HQ. First Sergeant sat me down and handed me the phone. Her father had gotten the number for my training unit and gotten his call forwarded to my specific unit, CSMs do know each other and have connections so not that surprising compared to other things I saw and learned later in my career. Conversation went roughly as follows.
"Yes sir?"
"Look son. I did n't like you to start with but you are better than most of the guys my daughter has run with. You also seem to be getting your shit straight so, well, you deserve better."
"Sir? I don't understand?"
"Well shut up and you will."
"Yes sir."
"My daughter flew back here to Germany to see us and has gotten back together with one of her useless exes so, I made her at least be honest and if I have timed this right you should be getting a "dear John" letter in the next couple days. I don't think she will be completely up front so I will be. You got her pregnant. Congrats and I'm sorry. I found out because once back here in Germany her mom helped her go get an abortion without consulting either of us and that's just fucked son. So, you've dodged a bullet and she has moved on. Are you okay son?" It took me a minute. "Son?"
"Yes sir. Umm, no sir. I'm not but I will be. Thank you sir. Anything else sir?" I was in a weird mix between numb and bordering on rage at that moment to be honest.
"Yes. One more thing. Own this. Whether you cast it out of your mind or burn it as fuel own it and use it. You do so good by you that if she ever hears of you again she will regret her decision you hear me?"
"Yes sir."
"Good. Good luck." and he hung up.
The drills, except for Trice, actually more or less stayed off my back for a couple days. I kept my head down and got my shit done. Then the letter came in. A very simple "I don't think this will work so I'm moving on and you should do the same." Type of "dear john". And I did.
Now, aside for once while on hometown recruitment I don't recall ever seeing her again but, this does have a funny ending.
About a week after her letter arrived I get called up for mail call.
"Hathaway, get your ass up here and stay put." Once I was in position, the push up position as we had to do 10 push-ups for every letter, 20-50 for packages depending upon the size, the drill just kept calling my name and throwing letter after letter under me. I had a huge ass pile of at least 20. Gotta love good battle buddies as several jumped in to help me knock out the push-ups for all the letters and 3 packages in the pile. The drill sergeant was chewing my ass as it was not my birthday so what was all this shit messing up his floor!? First of course, were the packages, had to open them up up front in case of food. All 3 had food. One was cookies, one was rice crispy treats and the other, bless Sandra to death, was chocolates. (Sandra is a friend of mine and is a custom chocolate maker in CA. She still makes custom sweets even to this day.) I quickly handed those out and we inhaled the food. Then came the letters, so many letters. The thing was, they were all comical "dear john" letters from my friends. Even several of the guys wrote dear john letters, one bemoaning how it just was not going to work since I got the sex change to be a guy, another extolling how he had come to realize he liked "real men", another accusing me of cheating with "girls of all things icky". They were hilarious despite almost getting me into so much trouble in the age of don't ask don't tell. Sandra's also made me laugh as she felt compelled to write hers after finding out her son was breaking up with me as if I could not be his then she could just not see keeping me to herself. There were lots of letters from female friends as well just to be clear which did help to prove to command that it was just friends trying to cheer me up following the news of the abortion and break-up. Also honestly, many of what the ladies said is not coming to mind as easily at the moment. Well aside from one from one of my female friends who had had a baby just before I left and said with me gone she just had to have someone other than the baby to help relieve the pressure of her lactation. Yes she was actually married, to one of my buddies and no she and I never had anything of any kind together though she did love trying to embarrass me.
The drills thought it all funny as hell and made me read the letters to the platoon for a good laugh. They even made me pass around a photo one of the guys sent me, basically a frontal nude with his junk taped back. Funny thing there is he actually did come out as gay about 15 or 16 years ago which would have been about 9 years after sending me the picture. (No I don't still have it you sickos.)
Hope you all enjoyed and got a good chuckle today. Be safe out there.
The drills
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2015.07.02 07:42 Aloysius_Chinigan Sandra mom nude

Alright guys, so I finally did it! I made an anagram for every single survivor contestant thus far, minus the leaked Season 32 contestants. Now, here are some caveats to how I formed these:
-Certain people were impossible to do with their regular first and last names. So, for those I had to look up their full names on the Survivor Wiki for the ones whom I couldn't make into anything good. Luckily, this fixed a lot of initial duds.
-Any season with returning players will have those players excluded from it, such as in returnee vs newbie seasons, because each contestant is one person and will get only one anagram. Consequently, seasons 8, 20, and 31 are not listed.
-As a sole exception to the above rule, Candice has two different entries, due to having competed under two legal names.
-The quality will likely be mixed either way. If you have suggestions for better anagrams for a particular person, I may choose to change what I initially posted here.
Survivor: Borneo
Sonja Christopher – Harsh Projections
B.B. Anderson – Boner Bands
Stacey Stillman – Manacle Stylist
Ramona Gray – Angry Aroma
Dirk Been – Bike Nerd
Joel Klug – Gull Joke
Gretchen Cordy – Dry Crotch Gene
Greg Buis – Big Urges
Jenna Lewis – Weasel Jinn
Gervase Peterson – Gravestone Peers
Colleen Haskell – Snake Cello Hell
Sean Kenniff – Knee Fin Fans
Susan Hawk – Hawk’s Anus
Rudy Boesch – Decoy Shrub
Kelly Wiglesworth – Skewer Owl Lightly
Richard Hatch – Hard Arch Itch
Survivor: The Australian Outback
Debb Eaton – Toned Babe
Kel Gleason – Llanos Geek
Maralyn Hershey – Hey Anal Rhymers
Mitchell Olson – Cell Monoliths
Kimmi Kappenberg – Meek Bark Pimping
Michael Skupin – Chipmunk Aisle
Jeffrey Varner – Ferny Jar Fever
Alicia Calaway – I’ll Acacia Away
Jerri Manthey – Therein My Jar
Nick Brown – Known Crib
Amber Brkich – Mr. Rich Kebab
Rodger Bingham – Hombre Grading
Elisabeth Filarski – Bearlike Fishtails
Keith Famie – If Hike, Mate
Colby Donaldson – Bald Condos Only
Tina Wesson – Season Twin
Survivor: Africa
Diane Ogden – Adenine God
Jessie Camacho – Sea Jam Choices
Carl Bilancione – A Clinical Boner
Linda Spencer – Slender Panic
Silas Gaither – Regalia Shits
Lindsey Richter – Christen Direly
Clarence Black – Black Canceler
Kelly Goldsmith – Old Elm Skylight
Brandon Quinton – Quint Noon Brand
Frank Garrison – Iran Frog Ranks
Kim Powers – Spike Worm
Teresa Cooper – Peace Rooster
Tom Buchanan – Bacon Ham Nut
Lex van den Berghe – Bland Revenge Hex
Kim Johnson – Ms. Hook Jinn
Ethan Zohn – Hath No Zen
Survivor: Marquesas
Peter Harkey – Perky Heater
Patricia Jackson – Satanic Jock Pair
Hunter Ellis – Hustler Line
Sarah Jones – No Ashes Jar
Gabriel Cade – Γ‰clair Badge
Gina Crews – Nicer Swag
Rob Mariano – Romania Bro
John Carroll – Loch Jar Lorn
Zoe Zanidakis – Ask Ionize Adz
Tammy Leitner – Manly Termite
Robert DeCanio – Broad Erection
Sean Rector – Ace Snorter
Paschal English – Phallic Gnashes
Kathy Vavrick-O’Brien – Overt Khaki Vibrancy
Neleh Dennis – Linden Sheen
Vecepia Towery – Pewee Voracity
Survivor: Thailand
John Raymond – Horny Nod Jam
Tanya Vance – Any Vane Cat
Jed Hildebrand – Jab Riddled Hen
Ghandia Johnson – Sandhog Ninja Ho
Stephanie Dill – Split Headline
Robb Zbacnik – Czar Bib Knob
Shii Ann Huang – High Sauna Inn
Erin Collins – Iron In Cells
Ken Stafford – Kart Sendoff
Penny Ramsey – Any Sperm Yen?
Jake Billingsley – Libya’s Jingle Elk
Ted Rogers – Greed Sort
Helen Glover – On Verge Hell
Jan Gentry – Granny Jet
Clay Jordan – Old Cyan Jar
Brian Heidik – A Bikini Herd
Survivor: Amazon
Ryan Aiken – Kenya Rain
Janet Koth – Jet To Kahn
Daniel Lue – Alien Duel
JoAnna Ward – No Jan Award
Jeanne Herbert – Ban Nether Jeer
Shawna Mitchell – Lethal Chasm Win
Roger Sexton – Torn Gore Sex
Dave Johnson – Save Don John
Deena Bennett – Tanned Bee Net
Alex Bell – Lax Belle
Christy Smith – Mythic Shirts
Heidi Strobel – Hostile Bride
Butch Lockley – Belly Cock Hut
Rob Cesternino – Corniest Boner
Matthew von Ertfelda – Thwarted Fetal Venom
Jenna Morasca – Cane Jam Arson
Survivor: Pearl Islands
Nicole Delma – Iceland Mole
Ryan Shoulders – Laundry Horses
Michelle Tesauro – Rheumiest Local
Trish Dunn – Kind Turns
Shawn Cohen – When Nachos
Osten Taylor – Toasty Loner
Andrew Savage – Seaward Vegan
Ryan Opray – Pony Array
Rupert Boneham – Rupee Bra Month
Tijuana Bradley – Radiant Bluejay
Christa Hastie – Atheist Chairs
Burton Roberts – Boner Bro Trust
Darrah Johnson – Honors Hand Jar
Jon β€œJonny Fairplay” Dalton – A Jolly Jordan Infant Pony
Lillian Morris – All Sirloin Rim
Sandra Diaz-Twine – A Standardize Win
Survivor: Vanuatu
Brook Geraghty – Hot Grog Bakery
Dolly Neely – Yelled Only
John Palyok – Jalopy Honk
Mia Galeotalanza – Atomize Anal Gala
Brady Finta – Dainty Barf
Travis β€œBubba” Sampson – Baobabs Varmint Puss
Lisa Keiffer – Iffier Lakes
John Kenney – Johnny Knee
Rory Freeman – Ornery Frame
Lea β€œSarge” Masters – Teargasses Realm
James β€œChad” Crittenden – Transcended Jam Ethic
Leann Slaby – Sell Banyan
Ami Cusack – Sick Macau
Julie Berry – Rib Eel Jury
Eliza Orlins – Zillion Eras
Scout Cloud Lee – Eco Locust Duel
Twila Tanner – Written Anal
Chris Daugherty – His Daughter Cry
Survivor: Palau
Jonathan Libby – Ninja Hat Lobby
Wanda Shirk – Knish Award
Jolanda Jones – Jade Jan Loons
Ashlee Ashby – Bash Eyelash
Jeff Wilson – Sniff Jew Lo
Kim Mullen – Nil Elk Mum
Willard Smith – Third Sawmill
Angie Jakusz – Ski Jan Gauze
James Miller – Smellier Jam
Ibrehem Rahman – Ham Miner Rehab
Bobby Jon Drinkard – Knobby Jordan Bird
Coby Archa – Achy Cobra
Janu Tornell – Jell-O Rat Nun
Stephenie LaGrossa – Repeating Assholes
Gregg Carey – Grey Egg Car
Caryn Groedel – Calendar Orgy
Jennifer Lyon – Iron Elf Jenny
Ian Rosenberger – Bear Groin Sneer
Katie Gallagher – Lake Hitler Gaga
Tom Westman – Swat Moment
Survivor: Guatemala
James Lynch – El Jam Sync
Morgan McDevitt – Redacting TV Mom
Brianna Varela – Brave Iran Anal
Brooke Struck – Coke Bro Turks
Blake Towsley – Tallboys’ Week
Margaret Bobonich – Corer Thingamabob
Brian Corridan – Rabid Iran Corn
Amy O’Hara – Mayor Aha
Brandon Bellinger – Bland Boner Linger
Jamie Newton – Nominate Jew
Gary Hogeboom – Mega Hobo Orgy
Judd Sergeant – Just Deranged
Cindy Hall – Candy Hill
Lydia Morales – Armadillo Yes
Rafe Judkins – Fraised Junk
Danni Boatwright – Ninth Bigot Award
Survivor: Panama
Tina Scheer – Cheater Sin
Melinda Hyder – Idly End Harem
Misty Giles – My Legit Sis
Ruth-Marie Milliman – Manlier Lithium Arm
Bobby Mason – Ban My Boobs
Dan Barry – Barnyard
Nick Stanbury – Risky Cunt Ban
Austin Carty – Racist Aunty
Sally Schumann – Manly Ass Lunch
Bruce Kanegai – Cake Urine Bag
Courtney Marit – Crematory Unit
Shane Powers – Heroes Pawns
Cirie Fields – Sir Ice Field
Terry Deitz – Dry Tree Zit
Danielle DiLorenzo – Zillion Oral Needed
Aras Baskauskas – Arab Asks Auk Ass
Survivor: Cook Islands
Sekou Bunch – Bounce Husk
Billy Garcia – Libya Garlic
Cecilia Mansilla – I Claim Alliances
J.P. Calderon – Cold Jar Pen
Stephanie Favor – Rapist of Heaven
Cao Boi Bui – I Ciao Bubi
Cristina Coria – A Racist Ironic
Jessica β€œFlicka” Smith – Jackass Chile Misfit
Brad Virata – Bird Avatar
Rebecca Borman – Embrace Carbon
Jenny Guzon-Bae – Annoy Bung Jeez
Nate Gonzalez – Zen Tango Laze
Candice Woodcock – Cocooned Caw Dick
Jonathan Penner – An Orphan Jennet
Parvati Shallow – Sharia TV Wallop
Adam Gentry – Tragedy Man
Sundra Oakley – Dankly Arouse
Becky Lee – Ye El Beck
Oscar β€œOzzy” Lusth – Scuzzy Oral Host
Yul Kwon – Yolk Wun
Survivor: Fiji
Jessica deBen – Jade Bi Scenes
Erica Durosseau – Saucier Aroused
Sylvia Kwan – Swanky Vial
Gary Stritesky – Risky Strategy
Liliana Gomez – Anal Gizmo Lie
Rita Verreos – Sir Overrate
Anthony Robinson – Ban Horny Notions
James β€œRocky” Reid – Joyride Smacker
Lisette β€œLisi” Linares – Ileitis Literalness
Michelle Yi – Limy Lichee
Edgardo Rivera – Aged Diva Error
Mookie Lee – Eke Lei Moo
Alex Angarita – Anal Rage Taxi
Stacy Kimball – Blacklist Yam
Kenward β€œBoo” Bernis – Breadwinner Books
Yau-Man Chan – A Cyan Human
Cassandra Franklin – Darn Calfskin Saran
Andria β€œDreamz” Herd – Hazard Admirer Den
Earl Cole – El Oracle
Survivor: China
Steve β€œChicken” Morris – Chicness Remover Kit
Ashley Massaro – Mayoral Sashes
Leslie Nease – Senile Lease
Dave Cruser – Curved Ears
Aaron Reisberger – Reran Bear Orgies
Sherea Lloyd – Holy Leaders
Jaime Dugan – A Maiden Jug
Jean-Robert Bellande – Antlered Banjo Rebel
Michael β€œFrosti” Zernow – Choirmaster Wiz Felon
James Clement – Semen Clam Jet
Erik Huffman – Ramekin Huff
Peih-Gee Law – Wheelie Gap
Denise Martin – Rain Sediment
Amanda Kimmel – Damn Like Mama
Courtney Yates – Yeasty Counter
Todd Herzog – God Do Hertz
Survivor: Micronesia
Mary Sartain – Mantis Array
Michael β€œMikey B” Bortone – Bohemian Embryo Tickle
Joel Anderson – Jars Olden One
Chet Welch – Welch Tech
Kathy Sleckman – Kale Snack Myth
Tracy Hughes-Wolf – Ugly Cashew Froth
Jason Siska –A Kass Joins
Alexis Jones – Jean Sex Oils
Erik Reichenbach – Cabin Hiker Cheer
Natalie Bolton – Battalion Noel
Survivor: Gabon
Michelle Chase – Helical Scheme
Gillian Larson – Anal Girl Loins
Paloma Soto-Castillo – Llama Potato Colossi
Jacquie Berg – Queer Cab Ji
Danny β€œGC” Brown – Gnawn Bond Cry
Kelly Czarnecki – Keenly Lick Czar
Ace Gordon – Gonad Core
Dan Kay – Yank Ad
Marcus Lehman – Calmer Humans
Charlie Herschel – Hair Screech Hell
Randy Bailey – Nearby Daily
Corinne Kaplan – Anal Neon Prick
Crystal Cox – Ax Colts Cry
Ken Hoang – Khan Gone
Matty Whitmore – Witty Mom Hater
Jessica β€œSugar” Kiper – Gassier Spark Juice
Susie Smith – Shit Misuse
Bob Crowley – Wobbly Core
Survivor: Tocantins
Carolina Eastwood – Woo Donates Racial
Candace Smith – Sham Accident
Jerry Sims – Merry Jiss
Sandy Burgin – Undying Bras
Spencer Duhm – Chum Spender
Sydney Wheeler – Lewd Heresy Yen
Joe Dowdle – El Dodo Jew
Brendan Synnott – Nanny Debts Torn
Tyson Apostol – Sly Potato Son
Sierra Reed – Readers Ire
Debra β€œDebbie” Beebe – Bee Babe Be Ride Bed
Benjamin β€œCoach” Wade – Beach Jaw Dominance
Taj Johnson-George – Sore Jean Thong Jog
Erinn Lobdell – Bedroll Linen
Stephen Fishbach – Phat Bench Fishes
James β€œJT” Thomas – Hot Jetsam Jams
Survivor: Samoa
Marisa Calihan – Maniacal Hairs
Mike Borassi – Irksome Bias
Betsy Bolan – Stolen Baby
Ben Browning – Bong Brew Inn
Yasmin Giles – Semi Slaying
Ashley Trainer – Tiny Rehearsal
Russell Swann – Wars Sell Nuns
Elizabeth β€œLiz” Kim – Hazel Kibitz Lime
Erik Cardona – Acorn Kid Era
Kelly Sharbaugh – Algebra Hulk Shy
Laura Morett – Aroma Turtle
John Fincher – John Fern Chi
Dave Ball – Bled Lava
Monica Padilla – Anal Lipid Coma
Shannon β€œShambo” Waters – Banana Showmen Shorts
Jaison Robinson – Iran’s Onion Jobs
Brett Clouser – Lobster Truce
Mick Trimming – Mr. Tin Gimmick
Russell Hantz – Hell’s Sun Tzar
Natalie White – A Titan Wheel
Survivor: Nicaragua
Wendy DeSmidt-Kohlhoff – Doffed Whisked Monthly
Shannon Elkins – Linen Shank Son
Jimmy Johnson – No Jimmy Johns
Jimmy Tarantino – Mayor Mitt Ninja
Tyrone Davis – Soviet Randy
Kelly Bruno – Rub Elk Only
Yve Rojas – Joy Raves
Jillian Halmi Behm – Inhale Bill, Jam Him
Alina Wilson – Liaison Lawn
Marty Piombo – Probity Ammo
Brenda Lowe – Blade Owner
NaOnka Mixon – Anon Max Oink
Kelly Shinn – Skinny Hell
Benjamin Henry – Inner Hymen Jab
Jane Bright – Ant Herb Jig
Dan Lembo – Bad Lemon
Holly Hoffman – Half Fool Hymn
Matthew β€œSash” Lenahan – Shaman Hasten Wealth
Chase Rice – Ace Riches
Jud β€œFabio” Birza – Farad Bijou Biz
Survivor: Redemption Island
Francesca Hogi – Refacing Chaos
Kristina Kell – Kinkier Stall
Krista Klumpp – Salt Kirk Pump
Stephanie Valencia – Leviathan Sapience
Sarita White – Wisteria Hat
David Murphy – Dry Hump Diva
Julie Wolfe – Jew Oil Fuel
Steve Wright – Tight Swerve
Ralph Kiser – Shark Peril
Grant Mattos – And Tart Song
Matthew Elrod – Thwarted Mole
Mike Chiesl – Simile Heck
Andrea Boehlke – Koala Need Herb
Ashley Underwood – Lousy Nowhere Dad
Natalie Tenerelli – Literal Alien Teen
Phillip Sheppard – Shipped Harp Pill
Survivor: South Pacific
Semhar Tadesse – Sedate Harems
Mark β€œPapa Bear” Caruso – Pupae Aroma Barracks
Stacey Powell – Coleslaw Type
Elyse Umemoto – Sumo Melee Toy
Mikayla Wingle – My Alkaline Wig
Christine Shields-Markoski – Sharkskin Eroticism Shield
James Logan β€œJim” Rice – Orca Jangle Jimmies
Keith Tollefson – Self-Honk Toilet
Dawn Meehan – New Headman
Whitney Duncan – Hyena Cunt Wind
John Cochran – Conch Jar Hon
Edna Ma – Mean Ad
Brandon Keith Hantz – Thank Dozenth Brain
Rick Nelson – Clone Rinks
Albert Destrade – Retarded Tables
Sophie Clarke – Cake Polisher
Survivor: One World
Kourtney Moon – Moron Nuke Toy
Nina Acosta – A Satan Icon
Matt Quinlan – Tan Man Quilt
Bill Posley – Libel Ploys
Monica Culpepper – Calcium Peep Porn
Colton Cumbie – Club Emoticon
Jonas Otsuji – Join Us, Tajos
Michael Jefferson – Chef’s Foremen Jail
Jay Byars – Say By Jar
Leif Manson – Fine Salmon
Troy β€œTroyzan” Robertson – Tyrant Terry’s Boron Zoo
Kat Edorsson – Naked Torsos
Greg β€œTarzan” Smith – N*gger Math Tzars
Alicia Rosa – Asia Car Oil
Christina Cha – Anarchic Shit
Chelsea Meissner – Less Archenemies
Sabrina Thompson – Kiss Batman Porno
Kim Spradlin – Rad Milk Nips
Survivor: Philippines
Zane Knight – Zen Hat King
Roxanne Morris – Armorers Ox Inn
Angie Layton – El Gay Nation
Dana Lambert – Badmen Altar
Sarah Dawson – Saran Shadow
Katie Hanson – Satan Honkie
Roberta β€œRC” Saint-Amour – Cabana Terrorism Tour
Jeffrey Franklin Kent – Kernel Jiffy Fern Tank
Artis Silvester – Restless Trivia
Pete Yurkowski – Porky Suit Week
Carter Williams – Erratic Sawmill
Abi-Maria Gomes – Ambrosia Image
Malcolm Freberg – Mr. Becalm Golfer
Lisa Welchel – Will Leaches
Denise Stapley – Sedately Penis
Survivor: Caramoan
Allie Pohevitz – Loathe Evil Zip
Hope Driskill – Hillside Pork
Shamar Thomas – Roast Ham-Hams
Laura Alexander – Relax Landau Era
Matt Bischoff – Fifth Scat Mob
Julia Landauer – Nude Aural Jail
Michael Snow – Machine Owls
Reynold Toepfer – Reported Felony
Edward β€œEddie” Fox – Faded Drew Oxide
Sherri Biethman – Her Theism Brain
Survivor: Blood Vs. Water
Rachel Foulger – Fuhrer Collage
Marissa Peterson – Raspiest Moaners
Candice Cody – Ice Cod Candy
Brad Culpepper – Rad Club Pepper
John Cody – Joy n’ Chod
Laura Boneham – Anal Beam Hour
Vytas Baskauskas – Vast Kayak Ass Bus
Caleb Bankston – Bacon Blankets
Katie Collins – Societal Link
Hayden Moss – Shady Omens
Ciera Eastin – The Canaries
Survivor: Cagayan
David Samson – Damn Ass Void
Garrett Adelstein – Tantalised Regret
Brice Johnston – Incest Job Horn
J’Tia Taylor – Oily Tat Jar
Cliff Robinson – Colon Rib Sniff
Lindsey Ogle – Oily Legends
Alexis Maxwell – Small Wax Exile
Sarah Lacina – Anal Hair Sac
Morgan McLeod – Condom Ram Gel
LJ McKanas – Clank Jams
Jeremiah Wood – Jew Home Radio
Jefra Bland – Elf Jar Band
Tasha Fox – Fast Hoax
Trish Hegarty – Gritty Rehash
Spencer Bledsoe – Bleeped Censors
Kass McQuillen – Mall Quickness
Woo Hwang – Who Wagon
Tony Vlachos – Chaos Only TV
Survivor: San Juan Del Sur
Nadiya Anderson – A Roadside Nanny
Val Collins – Van Sic Loll
John Rocker – Corn Jerk Ho
Drew Christy – Whirred Cyst
Kelley Wentworth – Wetter Wonky Hell
Dale Wentworth – Lewder Whatnot
Julie McGee – El Juice Gem
Josh Canfield – Self-Jihad Con
Jeremy Collins – Jolly CrΓ¨me Sin
Wes Nale – New Sale
Reed Kelly – Dry Elk Eel
Alec Christy – Yacht Relics
Jonathan β€œJon” Misch – John: Stomach Ninja
Baylor Wilson – Woolly Bra Sin
Keith Nale – Elite Khan
Missy Payne – My Easy Nips
Jaclyn Marrie Schultz – Clear Schmaltz Injury
Natalie Anderson – Neonatal Sardine
Survivor: Worlds Apart
Charlotte So-Young Kim – Lusty Hotcake Rooming
Vince Sly – Evil Sync
Nina Poersch – Nacho Sniper
Lindsey Cascaddan – Scandalised Candy
Max Dawson – Wax Nomads
Joaquin Souberbielle – Oblique Arson Jubilee
Kelly Remington – Lying Elk Mentor
Hali Ford – Hair Fold
Joe Anglim – Jail Gnome
Jennifer Brown – Inborn Fern Jew
Shirin Oskooi – Iris Hook Ions
Tyler Fredrickson – Trendy Frolickers
Dan Foley – Felony Ad
Sierra Dawn Thomas – Harrowed Satanism
Rodney Lavoie Jr. – Join Elder Ovary
Will Sims – Ill Swims
Carolyn Rivera – Cornea Rivalry
Mike Holloway – Holy Limo Wake
I hope you all enjoyed seeing these. Be sure to let me know how I did! Thanks, because you guys are awesome.
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2014.01.28 21:29 tabledresser [Table] IamA stripper. AMA!

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My girlfriend assumes that strippers are well off because she sees them drop money on shoes a lot. How accurate is that assumption? Yes and no. If one invests their money wisely they can end up being well off. If you spend it on evvverything you'll be broke. Now with shoes there is a difference. Dance shoes are made for dancing so they are going to cost more. I have yet to find/buy a pair under 50 (I'm there ther MIGHT be but w/e). And those shoes do not have a long shelf life. So we buy them constantly, I had a pair break after 2 work shifts, that sucked. In a second reply to your question. There are also plenty of strippers whop are almost worse off. I have a friend who spends most her money she earns buying drinks and work, then has to pay for a cab service at the nd of the night so her home take is literally crap.
As a guy that has never been to a strip club - why would I go? Sell me on the experience. Or is it just for certain guys? As for you: I would say go at least once to say you did. It really is for certain guys and gals. You have to be open to having fun but not go in with false expectations. And you really have to be willing to spend a little money. I've been as a customer and if you let yourself go you can have a fun time. Because that's why we're there, we are entertainers.
Just fyi shoes have almost unlimited shelf life. It's when they are taken off the shelf that they tend to get worn down. Unless dance shoes are perishable. I see what you did there.
What do you strip? I stripped a screw the other day and its pretty tough to get out. Clothing. But a screw is much harder. I used to do a little carpentry.
What do you get out of stripping that you don't think you'd get from other jobs? I don't mean that in a negative way, but rather in the sense that every job has upsides and downsides, and we never really get to hear about the upsides to working as a stripper. What is there that makes it worthwhile, outside the money? Outside of the money? I would say the freedom of schedule. If I get sick or I am just even having a bad day, I can be like "Hey, I'm not going to be in tonight". Now there is a limit, if everyone is calling out they won't have it. But for people with 2 jobs or kids it really helps them balance everyday life.
What's the worst cliche you've had to deal with in this line of work? Prostitution. I would say that is the number one, coke dealer close second.
But you can find me some right? Oh yeah. wink Not really, I wouldn't who to even ask.
I wouldn't who to ask either. Oh damnit. Who to ask* :p.
The word you're looking for is "know". This comment is just not going well for me today.
What was it like working with Sandra Bullock in Gravity? How did they get the zero G effects to look so real? Were you sad when the space debris ripped a hole through that other astronaut's face? I wish I had that answer for you.
What's your favorite video game? That is waaay too hard a question. I can say what I'm really enjoying right now which has been the Rust alpha. But I can never choose of all time.
Bb i got full kevlar n m4 we fk now? Got some kevlar myself. ;)
Oh, cool then. Play on a particular server? I've been on a few. First server, I guess crashed or something. Then I didn't enjoy my other one. Working on finding one that isn't populated by hackers and whiners.
Not to be rude but good luck. The official servers are full of hackers, But masked gamer is gonna make a server with better administration. I imagine people will join with the amount of his subscribers. I wish him luck. We've been dabbling on a friends server, if it gets more people on it I'm sure we will stick around.
What does your boyfriend think about your profession? We were together before I started, he knows it is just a job. He actually kind of enjoys it. He's sen me work and is like "Wow, my gf is getting paid just to be naked in front of guys who can't even do anything to her, awesome."
Do you feel good with being a stripper? you are stripper because you like? or because u need money? I don't hate nor love it. It lets me meet new and interesting people. Learn different things about trades. I did start for the money. The only real problem I have with the job itself is the stigma attached to it. The work can be fun at times though. So it is a bit of both.
How do you manage to perform in such a sexual way for men you find really gross? You kind of just ignore it. It's a job. I would say almost the same way a surgeon can do an operation they just focus on the task and not whats around it. Only way I can explain it.
Did you really compare your job to a surgeon? I mean, I get it, but a surgeon does his job because he's saving a life/improving the quality of life for someone. I'm not comparing my job to a surgeon. I was explaining the idea of you focus on what your doing. I'm not saying my job is anywhere near the caliber as someone saving lives. I'm not conceited like that.
Is the strip club industry any where near the level of seediness hollywood makes it out to be? Does it depend on the establishment? That is def. a club by club basis. I would say Hollywood plays it up for sure though, as they do most things. And it isn't even a city by city thing either. One club can be super clean while the one down the street can be sketchy as hell.
How much is an appropriate tip for a stripper? Does it have to be in singles? Or five-dollar bills? What's the biggest tip you've received? It's whatever you want to give really. I would always suggest at least 2 dollars. And of course not, we love bigger bills, its less bulky and easier to keep track of. People give 5s all the time. And the biggest tip on stage from one person would be 50.
Don't forget to mention that its per song At our club we do sets of 3 songs on stage. You don't have to tip the girl every song of course, unless you want to. Always nice to do for sure. Lap dances are per yes.
Did you meet your boyfriend before/after you started stripping? If after, did he meet you at the strip club? Before we had been dating a few months then I started working because we needed the money. His job didn't have enough hours or high enough pay.
About what percentage of girls do you think have sex for money at the strip clubs? Because I have no definitive proof of who does and doesn't I'll try to ballpark it. I would say for nights maybe 10%. Day shift I have no idea.
Why else? I don't want to.
What if I show mine? Then will you? Fair is fair. Do I want to see your pictures?
You tell me. Here's a teaser pic I just took with my iPhone: Link to Your move. Link to
What made you decide to be a stripper? What is your favorite thing about the job? Also what is the thing you dislike the most about the job? Needed the work and I was able to do it. I love my open work schedule. I'm scheduled 3 days but can work as often as I want. And If I can't make it in, there are no series repercussions. The stigma attached is the worst. Negative responses or people who think I'm going to hop on their crotch and bang em senseless because of what I do. I think you already posted this question.
Are you treated well at your establishment? How long have you been a stripper? A little over 2 years. And yes, I would say they treat me very well, I don;t break the rules so I have a good bit of trust under my belt as well. They do try to take care and protect the girls as much as they can which is nice. We aren't even allowed to leave the club after closing till the customers are all gone to make sure, or at least try, so no one follows us.
Does your family support your decision to be a stripper? Do you see yourself doing this ten years from now? When you first started, did you learn how to move as you went, get lessons from your coworkers, or watch those instructional dvds. How long have you been stripping? Have you ever been recognized outside the club? Were you nervous when you first started, if so hkw did you get past that? One more, is it true you don't dance to the beat? That seems hard to do. Family does not know, I know they wouldn't support me though. I don't see myself doing it in 10 years. Maybe 5 but not a long term career for me. Dance move wise, I've always been a dancer by nature and loved doing it, so I incorporate it into work with extra sex appeal. I've been doing it a bit over 2 years and I was recognized twice, neither of the instances were weird or anything though. Oh god I was so nervous I just kind of "find my center" and go from there. Now it isn't a big deal, just takes time. For your last question that is true and false. Some girls just do the same thing over n over n over with no care for the beat. I hate that, I dance to the beat for the most part. To me it just doesn't look right to just move with no feel for the music.
What is the weirdest thing you've seen happen in a strip club? Personally, I seem to not work the crazy nights. My friend did get a glass thrown at her head by a fellow dancer, has a scar from it now.
When you tell people about your profession, how do they treat you? It varies,but there is always an "Oh." at the beginning. Some people tell me they wish they had the body/courage to do it, others I get he sense that it makes them uncomfortable. I've only had a few extreme negative responses.
Could you elaborate more on "extreme negative responses?" Like, how bad does it get sometimes? I had a woman, 2 actually say how nasty I was that I was sucking dick in the back room cheating on my bf doing drugs all your sterotypes. They were workers at establishments we were customers at. Like behind the counter saying this to us as customers. Like wtf.
Holy shit... It sounds like you have to have a very high level of self confidence and security to actually be able to handle having a profession like that. Comes with the territory. I def. am not THE most confident woman around but I developed it more and more as I worked. Having a supportive boyfriend helps as well. :) And thanks.
Where do you buy your outfits? Can you recommend a good online store? What do you usually wear? I personally wear lingerie for the most part because I do a very retro pinup style. Fishnets, corsets garterbelts and some nice victory rolls. is a nice store with everything from corsets to run of the mill stripper wear. Some sex shops have things but in big cities there should be at least one designated stripper store (usually over priced though ). However, I know the clubs in my city have people who custom make outfits for dancers.
How many bills can you hold in a g-string before you have to offload? We normally put they money in our garters but hmm. I could probably hold 100 , but i might look like a money chia pet.
Have you had any creepy guys follow you or stalk you outside of your job? And if so, how did you deal with it? (If not, how would you deal with it, if it were to happen). Never followed or stalked. Our security makes sure everything and everyone is cleared out before we can leave. Customers would never even know what our car looks like . I do have someone in love with me apparently. Work calls him my stalker.
Do you have a special move? And what's the coolest maneuver you've ever witnessed? Bonus question: what's the button combination for your move. Back forward low kick? Pole invert with one leg hang. Um I work with a pole dance champ who does amazing stuff. I would say any move where the girl just drops suddenly and catches before hitting the ground. Bonus: Its Jump+ High kick + grab.
How long have you been a dancer? Do you practice much on the pole? I'm obsessed with the pole, been dancing 5-7 months and can do drops and stuff cuz I practiced really hard on stage lol I just ordered a pole, so I'll be getting much better. Little over 2 years. I have my own pole at home that I use for fitness/practice. It's alot of fun for sure.
Oh okay. Just curious. I think its funny that butthurt people downvoted literally all your comments. People are so weird about strippers/sex workers. I haven't paid attention to people down-voting. I know they will, and that's their prerogative. I'm just here to share information with people who want to know it.
What's the hiring process like? Every club is different. The standard seems that you come in, talk to a manage house mom or whoever and audition. For us that was doing a set on stage and they watch you and tell you yes or no. From there you can start working if you have a permit, or start after you get it. For us there was no real interview besides"Ever dance before" and "What is your stage name?"
While stripping did you ever do cam shows? I actually do not. I have a few friends and coworkers who do, but I'm just too lazy. Besides if I'm on my computer, I'm usually gaming.
Do you dance nude or topless? Full nude.
So... Atlanta? Pink pony is my guess! Oh noes I've been found out. :P.
Yea! I vastly prefer that. Topless clubs actually annoy me. The entire time I am thinking, so when is she going to get naked? And...she never does. Grr. :( You know I am actually the same way. I always assumed a strip club was always nude, always full of alcohol. I was disappointed to find that was untrue. Most places its Nude=no booz Topless=booz. A few are exceptions if they were established before certain laws , I believe at least.
What's the general vibe from you or the other dancers about the local govt trying to shut the club down? Not too much concern on our part. I mean, we all hope that we don't get shut down. But we have to put that in the back of our minds and focus on working now.
How do you feel about when people claim strippers and prostitutes are the same thing? I personally don't have a problem with prostitution as a whole. But I don't like for people to assumed that two different professions are intertwined. Yes it is possible, but its not 100% accurate. I hate when people assumed we are all prostitutes. We just want to come to work, do legal job, and go home to our S.o's or children or pets or whatever.
What kind of songs do you dance to? I have a friend who was a stripper and she liked to dance to more rock. I think one of her favorite songs was "bad girlfriend" by Theory of a Deadman, what about yourself? I dance to rock. It really just depends on the crowed or time/day. I will dance to Depeche mode and Siouxsie and the Banshees at maybe 8 pm. Then maybe around 1 am get more into Rob Zombie and Birthday massacre. I have a few songs that I have basically trade marked. "Around the sun" by 8mm. And "Do you think I'm sexy" by Revolting Cocks. And a bunch more.
Upvote for Revolting Cocks. Thumbs up
Yeah the study was on pheromones and was super interesting. Wish I'd bookmarked it!! Pheromone studies are a hobby of mine, so I was curious as to real life application!! Personally the week before I do very well, but during I am average or below. Yay pseudo-scientific study!
Perhaps something involving fertility?... That would be my first guess. Natural instinct it finding a mate, at least subconsciously.
How was your relationship with your father? Why doesn't Vixen sleep around? I have a fantastic relationship with my father. He's a great dad. And I don;t actually work with any Vixens. But Santa clause might know.
How often do the girls in your place get propositioned? What happens after? I would say 80% of the time. That varies girl to girl as well. Nothing ever happens when they ask me.
Were you an exhibitionist when you were a child or teenager? How do the boys you went to school with treat you now? I actually wasn't. Oddly enough, I'm a pretty shy person outside of the whole dancing naked thing. As for the boys from school I have only run into one person I went to school with in the club and he was pretty cool. I don't broadcast my job on facebook or anything.
Do you play league of legends? I do yes!
THANK YOU. As a woman, LoL can be a sausage fest and it can be frustrating. Yes it can! If they learn you're a woman, if you piss em off, you're automatically fat/ slut. lol.
Favorite champions? I main support or mid so I'd say top are Sona/Nami and Cassiopeia/Zyra.
LOL! I knew it, whats your rank tier? You should add me, Wangutang :P. I'm not in any rank atm. I don't do too many ranked games actually. I was like placed in Bronze II last time honestly.
Yup, I'd rather just be called dick than a slut haha. I know right.
Would you have sex with me for a million dollars? That's still illegal. Cassh monnaaay.
You totally would though right? In cash, in like, a small briefcase, or a bag with a dollar sign on it. Has to be the bag with the $. 2 actually, and I need a long curly mustache and I get to ride away on a train afterwords laughing maniacally.
Tell us about the shyest customer you've ever had (or someone that didn't like what he was getting). anything strange he did, and what was his facial reactions like? details please, no two word answers. I personally like the shy ones. They all usually act the same, just in awe. You can see the reserved happy smiles on their face. They don;t know what to do with their hands so they fidgit or just hold onto their chair. They don't know where to look. Usually they even say "I don't know what to do!" I always say just relax and enjoy yourself. :) I think that they are hyped up to think they're basically getting laid and it makes them more nervous.
What is the most awkward encounter you have had with a customer? Hmm. Well when I ran into a guy I used to be "friends" with that was weird. But I would say the more awkward one was a guy who took me to a VIP room and licked my armpit. That was, awkward. :x.
Did he offer an explanation? He just liked the "natural scent of a woman".
How do you handle... handsy customers? What's the rudest someone has been? Favorite color? I tell them no and if they keep at it I will leave or get a bouncer depending on the severity. The rudest damn. Hmm haven;t had anyone be over time top an asshole to me verbally but I had one guy run his fingers up my crotch. Blech. And I would say Emerald green would be my fav.
Good to know you haven't had any rude as hell verbals. Ew on the perv that doesn't get the rules. Nice color answer. What you strip for? College? I was in a program in the medical field ( specifics left out for discretion) and now I just do it till work opens up for that. Hard job market.
A stripper with no pics? Alright then... So, uh, are you hungry...? No pics to keep my identity safe. I'm sure you understand. And I am rather hungry.
Why did you get into this profession? Needed money honestly. I am young enough and in good enough shape where I can. And I love dancing.
As a stripper do you feel the need to involve yourself with the conversations/arguments that are related to the stripper profession, i.e. hang ups with selling sexuality, feminist concerns, role modeling, etc. Or is this just more a job for you? Not the need but I do like to be involved. I think those issues are something that need to be addressed in general. They are things that are not going to go away so we have to deal with it., But while at work, it IS a job.
Has a guy ever "finished" on you or to you at the club? On me, no way. If they even tried to go for that zipper I'd stop that. To me? I haven't noticed.
When you're giving a lap dance, is it awkward or weird when a guy gets hard? Or is it just expected as part of the territory? And do you enjoy that? Our club (and I think all clubs here are supposed to) we give air dances, no lap grinding. So I never really feel any hard ons unless I lean my back against them. It does pretty much come with the territory, I can't get mad, that just makes me feel like I did a good job. I never call them out on it, if I happen to feel it I might give a sly "Ooh" look to them to acknowledge it playfully. I don't necessarily enjoy it as I have a bf at home who has hard ons a plenty :P.
Spock or Piccard? (I mean the old school spock, not the super hot zachary quinto) Piccard. I'm a sucker for a captain.
But old generation over next generation, right? Can't lie, I just love Patrick Stewart, he can do no wrong in anything. I haven;t sen any of his Star trek episodes in for freakin ever. I haven;t watched Star Trek (Minus the new movie) since Captain Janeway was commanding really. My mom is the big trekky though in my family.
You haven't watched star trek??? ps. Zachary Quinto is delicious right?(the new movies) I saw the first new movie I did not see the second though.
So if a customer said " I know you get paid on commission, I'm just looking". How would you handle that? Lol. I'm torn. Yes it is based commission, but when someone is just there to look at the ladies and not spend anything that is equally just as hard to deal with. If someone is there and not buying dances or tipping the women on stage then we're not making money and the seat is being taken up. I would say if someone goes in to just look, tip the ladies on stage. As my dj says "You tip, they strip." And then everyone can pay rent! Yayyy.
I 100% agree . Awesome. :)
I am inexperienced on ettiquette in a strip club. I dont get lap dances but I do walk around and tip a dollar or 2 on stage quite often. Is this ok or should it be more? I would say that is ok. Some people are not into getting dances. My golden rule is if you are watching her, tip her. On a related note if you come up and tip her don't go up with a dollar bill and hold it out and say things like "Let me see the pussy". It is a bit rude especially if it is just 1 dollar. It makes us feel as though that's all we are worth.
What's your favorite song to dance to? Edit: Spelling. Picking a fav. is hard. I Would say Around the sun by 8mm. Its a good 3rd song because by then we're naked and we don't do floor or pole work so it's based on sensual movements.
Sweet, new song for my lovemaking mix! Thank you! To either you or your boyfriend, do you practice new songs/routines on him first? You are welcome! I have given him a few dances and shown him pole tricks but I really don't try out things on him. But he does come to see me at work and enjoy my stage shows and he gets dances from coworkers.
I am not worthy... I am not worthy... You both sound super cool and confident in yourselves, best of luck! Appreciate it. And luck to you in all things.
What's with all these pervasive here? Anyways how much do you earn weekly? That varies on how often I work, the crowd how I feel they feel etc. I do have an average I can always at least make $1000. With good and bad nights.
Can I get a key chain? I wish I had one to give you :)
What does your boyfriend think about your job, does it affect your relationship at all? He actually responded to someone who asked something similar on this thread. But he's very supportive. Sometimes I lose my sex drive after hard nights of handsy guys but overall we have a very stable relationship.
Does your club serve food? If so, how clean is it? It does! Rather good food actually and just as clean as any other restaurant. I think people get he misconception that it's a bunch of dirty half naked women making the food, where in reality we have our own kitchen staff who do a great job. We aren't even allowed to go in the kitchen, no desire to go anyway. The bf loves the french fries.
How much is the house fee? Ours is $41.00 , with late fees applied if you are late. Plus DJ, valet, housemom based on percentages.
What is the weirdest thing o ever happen to you at work? Besides a customer running his hand up my cooch. Yuck. The guy who wanted to lick my armpit was odd.
Armpit? Ew Yeah.
Thank you for this AMA. Have you ever like slip on the pole or had an embarrassing moment? No problem! I once did a spin and was like an inch away from the pole with my hand and fell. And I also spun into the pole and busted my lip before, noone really noticed either, it was a slow night.
Do you always have to wear big high heals? Can you just be bare footed? Shoes always, they don't regulate the type. Bigger platforms do form more of a cushion under your foot however. I personally wear 6 inch ones because I am shorter so I can still reach the ground in those. You wouldn't want to be barefoot trust me.
I just can't imagine! I can hardly walk in inch heals...I look like a newborn giraffe! I have a friend like that. Got married in keds, it was cute. I personally have always worm heels and it's second nature, really just takes practice. :)
No hate here. I for one love strip clubs and strippers, fortunately I have a wife who doesn't mind haha. Is there any type of strip club etiquette I should be following? I know most ladies have their own rules but im looking for the unspoken. I would say my most basic ones are : Tip the ladies, just be polite, let her lead the way when it comes to hands on( if she grabs your hand and puts it somewhere, that's her prerogative! :P) One people don't notice is, if someones getting a lap dance near you, and you happen to watch it( watch not just glance for a second that is), it is polite and always enjoyable to tip that woman.
Are you a PS4 or Xbox system owner? I'm on ps3 right now, and PC mainly.
Oh my, well I like how your loyal to PS. You should defiantly invest in the PS4, You wont be disappointed! What state do you work in? Georgia. The only reason we don't have a PS4 is because we wanted to wait for it to be around for a while and work on any bugs it has.
True my GF bought me one for Christmas, the only thing that didn't work was the blueray player. It needed a system update to play bluerays and dvds. Other than that no issues. I'm glad to hear there were no problems.
When some "guy makes it rain," what is the etiquette for collecting the money? I mean, don't a lot of guys (the other patrons) just see the chance for free rapper money and go for it too? Taking money from a dancer is an easy way to get yourself attacked. It's stealing . When they throw money most of it goes on the stage, but some lands on the floor and near by waitresses/dancers will usually throw it back on the stage. It's really based on the honor system, its nice not to try and take it, but if you do, and you are caught, no bouncer is going to hold that dancer back from kicking your ass.
What do you think of the film- 'Showgirls'? Love or hate it? I actually haven't seen showgirls yet. I hear alot of negative things about it, but I do want to see it.
Thanks for doing this AMA. I am jealous of your boyfriend by the way, having a stripper as a girlfriend must be interesting. enjoy life;) No problem. :) It does add a little quirkiness to our world for sure.
On a regular night, how much do you make? I would say average 3-5 hundred.
Hey, I am a guy in a relationship with a stipper, and had a few questions. I noticed your boyfriend responded to one of the questions and said that he was perfectly ok with it, which is great, all the more power to you guys. Has there ever been any jealousy from your boyfriends end? I mean, for me, there is a certain routine i get into each night she's doing it, where i do get jealous, then I try to forget it, then I can't forget it, then I get mad that I can't be more supportive of my girlfriend. The thing that got me was, at three seperate times, guys grabbed her vagina. She would get off, and play like everthing was cool, then burst out in tears about what just happened, I obviously get extremely upset, but at the same time feel so powerless. I guess I'm ranting, I do have another question, though. Does stripping turn you on, does seeing the look in those guys faces do anything for you, or do you do it soley for the money? Thanks for doing the ama! It really is just a job. But I do get kind of a joy when I genuinely se someone is enjoying themselves watching me dance, ( if they are polite about it). I have never really seem any jealousy on his end because he knows at the and of the day it's us. We love each other and no one I dance for can change that.I have danced for some cuties though, but that wouldn't change anything about our relationship. I can understand her reaction to such things. Being groped like that does make you feel very vulnerable, buy we have to stay focused and strong at work and let it out later. I've had a friend cry herself tot sleep because of that crap. It's having a supportive partner to come home to that really helps mentally sooth. Hope that answered it for ya :)
Do dancers prefer a guy to be well dressed when they go into a club? For example, will the guy dressed in a suit get more/better attention than the guy in at shirt and jeans? I think how you dress does project the money you have. But in my experience that is not always true. I've had suit wearing men spend nothing and guys in overalls spend hundreds. Wear whats comfortable, but it is always nice to look nice. OH never wear sweatpants and no underwear, its creepy.
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2013.08.28 00:18 BlanketTownKing Sandra mom nude

You hear about emotional breakdowns, psychotic breaks. We hear about repressed memories and the whole lot but it was never really real to me. That all changed this morning.
I made my 40min commute to my warehouse job like any morning. I tucked my pen, marker and knife into my right front pocket of my cargo shorts. I moved my wallet and keys to my right cargo pocket and my work gloves in place of my wallet in my back right pocket. I arranged the rest of my things in my pockets like I do every morning and plugged my headphones in and unpaused the podcast I was listening to.
This episode was from the "Sex Nerd Sandra" podcast, a weekly show that covers various educational topics about sex. This particular one was titled "sexual healing" and featured an interview with some woman who worked with sexually abused, violated or shamed persons. It was very enlightening and really hit home because I've met a number of people who were sexually abused, especially some friends in college.
You may have an idea of where this is going but it isn't what you think. I wasn't abused per say, however I think I and my privacy were violated.
The host and guests on the podcasts began talking about how they felt when they were sexually abused. They started describing the feelings of hopelessness and shame they felt. The featured guest talked about how some cope with what is abuse and write it off as joking or something they need to get over.
The three women continued on and all of a sudden I felt a tightening in my chest and I put the boxes I had been holding down, grasping my head and leaning on a shelf.
Every memory from my childhood when I was beaten came flooding back to me. Every moment of what I now feel was a sexual violation poured into my mind. These violations weren't from someone touching me, but from a blatant disregard for privacy when it came to my nudity.
I couldn't even read the tickets with the orders I was supposed to pull because I was so distraught. I could barely stand up and my breathing became extremely quick and shallow. I was enraged and morose all at once but my outward expression was the of someone who got the wind knocked out of them. I sat on a near by ladder with my head in my lap.
I recounted a time where I saw my older cousin yanked out of a shower, his nude body hitting the floor. His mother beat him with a nearby brush after putting down the curling iron. I guess that would have been too much. She beat him and beat him, yelling something at him that I couldn't hear over his screams. I cried out, "what did he do?!?!" and tried to pull her off him. She turned and yelled something in a way that intimidated me so I backed off.
I ran into his bedroom and shut the door and cried. He was 9, I was 6. I remember it plain as day. She finished, opened the room and stood in front of me saying, "and don't you ever grab me or you'll get the same thing. Do you hear me?!". With new tears coming out I complied.
Then the violations. I was at an age where I was competent enough about my body that I was uncomfortable being seen naked. One day, my mom came in the bathroom while I was on the toilet. "I'm using the bathroom! get out of here!," I shouted as you'd expect anyone to shout. She laughed and said something to the effect of "I saw you when you were born, be quiet I'll be out in a minute". This continued for months, sometimes ending with me being beaten for it.
Then came the part that truly sat me down this morning. Why I can't be in the same house as my father this morning. I was 7 or 8 and I was getting changed in my room. The door was closed, which did little good because my parents would just barge in whether I was naked or not. This happened during the whole bathroom thing. I was changing and my dad walks in while I'm naked. I yelled at him to get out.
But he wouldn't. He said, "no I need to tell you something". This is when all the pain, shame, fear and guilt stems from that reemerged this morning, tightening my chest like two metal clamps squeezing my lungs. I screamed at the top of my lungs, "I'M NAKED I'M NAKED GET OUT! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, STOP IT AND GET OUT". He grabs me while I'm pushing him with one hand and trying to cover myself with the other and says, "now wait a minute, stop yelling" but i kept on screaming and screaming until my mom finally came down the hall and pulled him away.
I slammed the door and slumped up against it. I immediately started crying and my chest was just as tight as this morning.
Those two moments plus all the other times that my privacy wasn't respected, even though I was old enough to feel shame over it and all the time I was beaten instead of reasoned with all came back to me this morning.
I'm no writer, I don't know if I properly captured it but every time I felt so horribly horribly helpless and like I wasn't human. When I use the word horribly, I mean to capture the horror that I recalled from every time my arm was grabbed and twisted as I was whipped or hit. I remember trying to bleed reason out of my parents, asking them to explain to me why something was wrong, or why I shouldn't do something, or why I'm being punished. But there was no reasoning with them, if I argued I got whipped. If I yelled and got frustrated with all the unexplained rules and punishments, if I got so fed up with being cut off and unable to explain how I saw something that I just yelled then I'd be beaten. My compliance was never because of respect of understanding, it was only out of fear.
I'm sure some of this sounds petty and trivial to some of you. But all of this added up over the years. There was also the shaming into giving family members I didn't know hugs and kisses. My mother hugging me and not letting go, not in a cute way, when I'm clearly bothered and uncomfortable with it, when I clearly state I don't want to be touched. That's continued until this day.
My father always coming up behind me and placing his hand on my back. Such a simple gesture, he's been doing it for years, however for years I've been telling him that I don't like it. I don't want to be touched.
I simply don't believe you should touch somebody if they don't want to be touched and that you should respect their body and privacy. I think physical discipline is barbaric
I may have had this breakdown today, but this isn't the first time all of this has bothered me. Some of us may laugh about when we used to get whipped or beaten by our fathers and mothers. Some of us may even take pride in what it "taught" us. But the fact of the matter is that it is no different than any other kind of assault.
When I watched my naked cousin getting hit over and over with that metal brush until he was bruised I was watching one human being attack, pin, and beat another human being until they complied with what they wanted.
Sometimes I've remembered times when I was beaten for something and thought that I deserved it, that it wasn't that bad. But this morning I remembered it all. I remembered the physical, mental and spiritual wounds I had after each time. I remembered the rage I felt afterwards and how I wish I could murder whoever hit me. I remember feeling like a slave, having to comply with no understanding or comprehension of why.
As I got older the resulting feelings changed. The pain, shame, hatred, confusion, feelings of weakness and embarrassment all melted down and pounded into me, becoming pure rage. Raw, unbridled rage that I took out through video games, porn, and on other people(including girls).
At one point I developed a coping mechanism or whatever it was. I called it "The Plan". Whenever I was cut off, enraged, frustrated, beaten or otherwise subjugated by my parents I told myself, "Just remember the plan, only a number of years until the plan". The plan was to be obedient as much as possible. To smile and say yes. The knod, laugh and in all ways go along with what my parents said. When I was able to move out, I'd do so calmly and in a civilized manner. As soon as I was set up well at my new place of living, I'd cut contact. I wouldn't call, email, answer calls or the door if they came by. I wouldn't talk to my parents, or my family that supported this behavior, except for my brother and 1st cousins. This substantially cut down on the arguing, the beatings, all that. If I got upset, I'd just say to myself, "remember the plan". If I was beat I'd cry, lock myself in my closet and say, "remember the plan". It was my happy place and my safe haven.
After a while I became that face. Today, I remembered it all, the mask fell to the ground and shattered.
That was probably disjointed and incoherent at some points but I think it shows how messed up I am. The breakdown was at 11am and I still don't feel sane or right.
There is only one relationship that I can liken to mine and my parent's relationship. The relationship between a kind master and slave. Looking back, that's how I was raised. They were kind, loving, generous masters, and I was a slave that was beaten when he acted out of turn. No reason, no explaining, just do as we say and you won't get beat, you can go out sometimes and you'll have the toys you want.
Kind Master and Slave.
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Did you get to meet any of the main cast members? If so, who, and what were they like? Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) - Very pretty but shorter than I imagined. I never got to speak with her but she was very friendly with others.
Michael C. Hall - Very reserved, doesn't make unnecessary conversation, fairly stoic and quiet. I met him at craft services, said hi and asked how his day was going. He glanced up with a slight smile, said "Hi" and "Fine". I imagine he's used to fans flipping out around him so he's probably a little hesitant to talk to extras. I'm not sure if he's a method actor persae but he definitely had a lot of similarities to Dexter the few times I was around him.
Batista - Very fun and friendly. I think jolly would be the best word to describe him.
Quinn - Always in character, focused on his lines and blocking, not too interested in conversation.
Jason Gedrick (Novikov) - Super flirtatious. I first met him outside of the hair and makeup trailer on my first day and he came over, introduced himself, and said "I'm your boss" in a slightly suggestive way (he's the manager of the Foxhole on the show). He always made a point to flirt with me a little on set. He has three young sons (late teens, early 20's) who he brought to set one day and it seemed the only reason was to let them see all of the topless dancers.
Ray Stevenson (Sirko) - All I can say is hot damn that man is sexy! We first met in the hair and makeup trailer when he came and sat in the chair next to me to get all done up. I had a hard time not staring. Or drooling for that matter...
Anyone else?
Did Ray invite you back to his trailer? You know, for going over lines and such? I wish!
The girl that plays hannah? damn she fine. God damn she is. She wasn't in any of the club scenes so I didn't get to meet her. I probably would've drooled all over her though so I think that's a good thing.
Did you ever see C.S Lee (Vince Masuka)? Only once or twice during dinner (they would feed the whole cast and crew inside the police offices which was actually the exit of the stripclub). We never met but whomever he was talking to was always laughing up a storm.
So would you say Jason Gedrick is kinda swarmy then? I wouldn't say that. I didn't find him creepy since he wasn't that forward, he's just a very charming guy.
per se. Thank you! It didn't look right but I couldn't figure it out. Spell check doesn't think per se is a word :(
I probably would've drooled all over her. I'd totally watch that. Side project?? I'm game.
Well, it isn't a word, per se. )
Who's the most likable cast member? Are there any "diva" cast members? Batista was definitely the most likable. He brought a lot of fun to the set, always joking and very friendly. He even had conversations with the extras which is pretty rare in the business.
As far as "divas" go, the only outburst I saw was from Desmond Harrington (Quinn) during filming of episode 9. We didn't wrap until 3:30 AM so we were all really tired and tension was pretty high, especially since if a PA saw you yawn, you instantly had a soda or cup of coffee shoved in your hand. The director wasn't happy with a few of Desmond's lines and there was some delay due to the big action scene. After a dozen or so takes of a single line of his, he yelled something along the lines of "Come on! It's fucking 3 in the morning! We all want to go home. Fuck!". That was not a very fun day on set...
This makes me really happy to know that he's a nice dude off camera. If you told me that the nicest character on the show was actually a complete douchebag IRL, I'd be really sad. Like...curl up in a ball and cry in the shower sad. A friend of mine worked on a movie with Denzel Washington and said he was the rudest, biggest asshole she's ever met. I don't know if I'll be able to watch Training Day ever again.
Maybe he was just having a shitty week? I'm not a huge fan of his, though, so that doesn't make me upset. He's in some good movies, but he isn't one of those actors that I'd go to see a movie based solely around the fact that he's in it, you know? She was the director's assistant and said otherwise. Needless to say, she was very disappointed.
Well, ya burned that bridge! According to IMDB, Denzel has 52 titles to his name, most (if not all) of which, have a different director and AD. Might be a little hard to track down.
Dexter and Deb used to be married in real life, do you ever notice any tension between the two? I only saw them interact once outside the hair and makeup trailer. It was very brief and seemed like they were strictly talking about a scene. I've heard that they're really friendly and amicable toward each other though.
I'm sure they were pretty strict about taking photos on set; but do you have anything else you can share? With the air conditioner in Dexter's "house"
These are with some of the dancers and another waitress on the lot at around 2AM while on a break from shooting: 1 and 2
What's it like to be professionally beautiful? Well, ya know... it has its perks.
Have you ever heard of gonewild...? Your username is quite fitting.
Thanks, but not as much as yours :) Smooth.
Being a small character, how well were you paid? I was technically an extra, although I received higher pay than the general extras (such as the club patrons) since I was cast in a specific-type role. My rate was $178 for up to 8 hours. I got time and a half after 10 hours, double time after 12 hours, and my day rate per hour after 15 hours.
day rate per hour after 15 hours. Would that mean that each hour after 15, you are getting as much as you did during the first 15 hours, each hour? Or each our 15 you are getting 178/hour? Either way, that's some high pay, but a long day for sure. I would be getting $178 per hour after 15 hours. The longest day I ever worked was 13.5 hours so I never made it to the golden hour unfortunately. There was one day where I only worked 3 hours but other than that, it was always 12-13 hours per day.
Yeah, productions are very careful not to let extras enter the golden hours. Still though, featured extra pay ain't too shabby on it's own. Word.
Were you a fan of the show before you started working as an extra? I was only able to watch the first 3 episodes of the series (damn you Netflix Instant!), but once I was exposed to the plot and character development of the season I was burning to watch it.
You're in for a treat with season 4 :) Alright! Looking forward to it!
Have you done anything else in the entertainment world? Been in any other series or movies? I've been modeling on and off since I was a kid but really kicked things into high gear in 2009 when I moved to LA to pursue it. Aside from Dexter I've done quite a bit of extra work, I was in the season of Bones, am in the ads that will be coming out soon for Eva Longoria's new show Ready For Love, I've fronted a few smaller campaigns like Papaya and Nina Canacci. I've also been in a few fashion shows, lookbooks, and have done some private work for a few well-known photographers (not what you think, I promise).
Not what I think? A man can dream can't he? Dream all you want :) That's what the internet's for, right? And thank you! I've actually just left the entertainment industry to live a fuller life in Oregon and its one of the best decisions I've ever made. I had a great time in the business but its so much more difficult than anyone gives you credit for.
In any case, thanks for the response. I'm glad things are working out for you. EDIT: I accidentally a word.
Well, I hope your fuller life in Oregon is better for you than your life in the business. Best of luck to you, foxholewaitress. Only here 2 months and I already feel healthier and more relaxed than I ever felt in LA.
I live in Portland, how are you dealing with the climate change? lol. I'm in love :) I'm in the Eastern part of the state and we had a good 6+ inches of snow the other day. I grew up in California and had only visited the snow so this is my first time living in it. Between that and the fall color, I've seriously been missing out!
Now if I could just fatten up a bit I'd be a little less shivery! Model bodies don't do well in less than 60 degrees :(
Retiring in Portland? Join the club. 28 and retired. It's a good life. Not in Portland, I'm in the Eastern part of the state. Not exactly retired since I'm starting a business from scratch, but geez it feels good to have the city-load off my shoulders.
Wouldnt happen to need any employees would you? DC is doing the same to me as L.A. did to you Not unless you are a female with a passion for humane childbirth and willing to move to a very isolated rural town.
I like the idea of the rural town, but I fall short on the other two lol. Haha well there are plenty of great little towns out there, you just have to give them a chance :) Best of luck in your search for a better life! 3 years in LA was far too much for me to handle.
I read the books when they first came out. Watched the first season of the show and never picked it up until a week ago. Even with my finals this week I'm completely caught up now. Such an amazing show. My question is do you prefer white or wheat bread? *edit-forgot a word. Whole grain all the way. In my opinion, if it tears apart when you spread peanut butter on it, its not real bread.
Did you interact with Michael c hall at all? I'd bet he's almost as odd as the characters he's played. Michael C. Hall - Very reserved, doesn't make unnecessary conversation, fairly stoic and quiet. I met him at craft services, said hi and asked how his day was going. He glanced up with a slight smile, said "Hi" and "Fine". I imagine he's used to fans flipping out around him so he's probably a little hesitant to talk to extras. I'm not sure if he's a method actor persae but he definitely had a lot of similarities to Dexter the few times I was around him.
Do people REALLY get murdered on set to make the show ultra realistic? Who told you?!
You just plan worked flawlessly... Drats!
Hi, this might be late to ask.. But we're you there when Quinn tackled that guy out of the window? Yep, that was the night tension was pretty high. We didn't wrap until 3:30AM. It was so interesting to see how they did it. They brought in 2 stunt women to play the dancers near the window, and for good reason, since when the glass broke one of them got cut up pretty bad on her legs. There were GoPro's set up everywhere to make sure they got the shot since they could only do it once. It took two tries, since the first time the glass didn't actually break. The glass on the stage they are rolling around in while fighting is actually a bunch of little silicone pieces.
I thought they used some special type of glass (the phrase sugar glass sticks in my mind) for shooting scenes like that, that doesn't really break into sharp pieces? I thought the same. I'm a bit of a production nerd and when I asked they said it was basically the same thing as the safety glass on a car, hence the blood.
Do you have an idea what happens in the end of the season? I really hope that bitch LaGuerta gets what she has coming. Nope, its all top secret. I wish!
Where the people on set fun to be around or was it all very serious? Thanks for doing the AMA :). It was a ton of fun! Morale was always super high and it was the most playful, nicest crew I had ever worked with.
Who's the girl who's ass we see walking by in a thong in EVERY SINGLE BEACH scene this season? She's totally banging the director or something right? Haha no she is from the same agency as me actually. I don't know her name.
Me - "there's that ass again" Wife - "WHAT?" :/ Haha "must. refrain. from verbal acknowledgement of dat ass!"
The strippers in the club who are giving lapdances, etc; are they professional strippers or are they actors? Have always wondered this about tv shows that feature strippers, especially the ones who seem to be able to do pole dancing work. They're models and actors. Most of us got the job through the same agency which is sort of a "hot babes" specialty agency. When they put out the casting call they asked for girls to play waitresses and dancers. The dancers don't have to do it professionally, they just need to make it look real. Some of them did dance on the side but none of them were strippers primarily.
Did you film any nude scenes? As a waitress in a stripclub? That would be a no. But the Foxhole scenes have quite a bit of nudity from the dancers if that's what you're into.
Were you told not to reveal anything that happened in your scenes to anyone? Yes they were very strict on that. We were only allowed to say that it was a stripclub called The Foxhole, what our role was, and that a good portion of the plot takes place there. We weren't allowed to reveal anything specific or take pictures.
It sounds like modeling left a bad taste in your mouth. Is it the money, the hours or the lack of steady work? Is it the creepy fat bald guys leering at you from behind a camera? It's just a very difficult business. Most people don't validate the persistence it requires. Aside from the nearly-exhausting effort it takes to sustain any sort of notoriety or success, the expectations of your skin, the way you smile and laugh, height, measurements, ability to portray subtle to extreme emotions in an "inspiring" way at the drop of a hat regardless of your mood or environment is a lot to deliver and maintain. Especially when you're being barked at to be a monkey by an overworked photographer. There was one week when I was told by a casting director pushing 300 pounds that I was too fat for the job and then a few days later was told by another that I was too skinny for them. You just can't win and your success is almost entirely in the hands of others.
People have the idea that models are waited on hand and foot, driven to glamorous shoots in limos, and dealt champagne and cocaine all day. While that may be true for the 25 or so supermodels in the world, most models are treated pretty poorly.
We're expected to have bounds of energy when they refuse to feed us, to arrive looking a specific way that is only vaguely described beforehand, and at photo shoots we are considered lowest and last.
This is a generalization and I have had plenty of jobs where I was treated very well, but usually the more successful you become, the more neurotic your employers are. Photographers and designers tend to be pretty stressed perfectionists who run on coffee and too-near deadlines. Fashion people in general are very rude and catty. And half the time when you've worked your ass off for 12 hours straight and been treated like a mannequin without ears, thoughts or feelings, they end up airbrushing you to smithereens and might as well have used a mannequin in the first place.
I look back on my career fondly, but in the end I just got tired of my body being talked about harshly directly in front of me as if I wasn't there and being told things like "don't go to the beach and get all tan now, your skin tone is exactly what I want for our shoot in 3 months". During my last summer in California? I don't think so. I needed to take my power back.
I'm a huge fan of Dexter and have zero knowledge of the modeling realm, but this post/insight from your experience is amazing, thanks. So you left CA to get away from LA? Seems a little "baby with the bathwater"? Not exactly. We wanted a different life than what LA could offer us and we weren't able to find that anywhere in California. Not that it doesn't exist, there are many great places in the state, but our new town kind of found us. We didn't intend on moving a couple thousand miles away from our former life, but it worked out that way and its been wonderful.
Was Michael C stoned aswell? I bet that would've been hilarious to see. Haha I have no idea. I never heard of any of the cast getting stoned, just some of the crew.
Does he seem like the type of guy that likes to be alone? avoid interactions as much as possible? Thanks for doing this AMA btw! Michael C was born to play Dexter imo lol. From the few times I was around him I think you could say that. He just seems very serious about his job and I think he's probably a little guarded being around a ton of extras that could easily be crazed superfans.
Were you around for the killing scenes? How intense were/are they? No killings took place in the stripclub that I'm aware of, so no. I would have loved to be an extra in the ice cream scene though.
How was the whole experience for you? It was great! Its the best set I've ever worked on in terms of the crew and morale. Everyone was always so warm, friendly and lots of fun. I love being on set period. The air of everyone using their creativity and technical skills to make a fantasy come to life is inspiring, as is the notion that everyone is working. A lot of extras are down and out folks, not necessarily even actors, who are willing to take any job. Many of them haven't worked in months and some are even homeless. It's nice to be in a place where people are earning money, spending their time creatively, around good people, and are being taken care of and fed relatively healthy food. Some of my best memories...
What other sets have you been on? In terms of film/tv: Dexter, Bones, a Taylor Hicks music video, a Sandra Bullock/Matthew McConaghuey movie that I'm pretty sure was never actually released, a few game and talk shows.
Most of my "set experience" comes from modeling jobs which has been my main line of work for the last 3 years.
Ooo, how was working on Bones? Breezy. I was hired for a billboard shot in episode 8 of this season. I didn't get to meet any of the actors, but the crew was exceptionally friendly and organized.
The Booze and bottles on set are fake (fake liquid) or real? The bottles are real, the liquid is fake. I believe its just water with dye in it.
Does the whole crew watch the episode as it airs? Doing anything special for the season finale? That's a good question. I'm sure a few of them do, but I moved out of California before the season premiere so I wouldn't have known. As disappointing as it may sound, I probably won't do anything but sit there with popcorn, chocolate, my fiance and pup.
I think I'm going to cry now, you said a word you weren't supposed to, "fiance". hangs head It's true. If you met him you would understand. Or saw his beard for that matter. He really has it all.
How did you get to be an extra? Did you want to be on Dexter specifically? Are you a fan of the show? My agent works mostly via email. She sends out info on the roles she is looking to fill along with the information the casting director wants from us (pictures, height, acting experience, etc.) and you simply reply if interested. If the casting directophotographeproducewhoever likes you, they usually want to bring you in for a fitting which acts as a meeting to make sure you actually look like your pictures and are not batshit crazy. So I sent my email response to her, got an email back saying they wanted me to come in for a fitting at Sunset-Gower studios in Hollywood where the show is filmed and I started work 2 weeks later.
I wanted to be on whatever show had a good rate and would cast me. Not picky at all and of all the shows I've put myself up for, I'm so glad one that I actually booked was Dexter!
I had only seen a few episodes from the first season before, until freaking Netflix removed it from Instant streaming. After being on set and learning so much about the plot and character development I was burning to watch it. Its a little morbid for my taste but I love the writing and direction of the show.
Proof pls. Also, on a scale of one to masuka, how strange is c s lee? I posted a picture of me in Episode 4 above. I know its from behind but I didn't get much face time. I'll try and get a screenshot from the front. What else can I do to provide proof?
Generally proof consists of a picture of you with a sign saying something like "hi reddit" or "ama" and ideally today's date. Coming right up!
Is this enough proof?
Thanks! favorite person from the show you met? Definitely Batista. He was just a big warm and friendly guy who brought a lot of joy to set.
How was the craft service? Delicious. There is the usual candy, crackers, soda, coffee, fruit, string cheese, etc. that is available all the time but for actual meals they would bring in pasta, salad, pizza, etc. and on the longer days they would bring in an ice cream truck or something similar. One day we were working until the wee hours of the morning and they brought in someone to make everyone crepes with nutella. Love those people.
Are there a lot of laughs on set? Like when someone messes up a line or something? They're pretty serious about getting the shot, so not so much during the moment of filming, but between takes there is a lot of joking and laughter.
Did you meet people who you'd consider as "friends for life" on set? Or anyone you'll be staying in touch with and have conversations about how the show will pan out? ( once you have caught up) Not friends for life, but I did get close with a few people and we stay in touch via Facebook. I've made some friends for life with photographers I have worked with however.
How were you able to get a job on the set? My agent works mostly via email. She sends out info on the roles she is looking to fill along with the information the casting director wants from us (pictures, height, acting experience, etc.) and you simply reply if interested. If the casting directophotographeproducewhoever likes you, they usually want to bring you in for a fitting which acts as a meeting to make sure you actually look like your pictures and are not batshit crazy. So I sent my email response to her, got an email back saying they wanted me to come in for a fitting at Sunset-Gower studios in Hollywood where the show is filmed and I started work 2 weeks later.
Besides starring at Sirko, did you get to talk to him? What was he like on set? He was one of my favorite characters this season. Not that I remember, we may have said hi briefly if that, but he was very nice on set.
You didn't felt kinda weird being surrounded by naked ladies?. (English isn't my primary language so srry if im misspelling some things) Everything is spelled perfectly :) I've always been very comfortable with nudity, and modeling has reinforced that over time. I'm used to being naked in front of strangers on set and having other models naked around me too. Its just part of the job. Nothing weird.
I know you don't know the outcome of the series, you probably couldn't say even if you did, but would you speculate on what you personally think will happen in the finale? Oh gosh I have no idea. I was only exposed to what happened in the stripclub scenes and am not caught up yet on the season (they're all DVR'd but I haven't gotten around to watching them yet) so I can't really say.
Who's the biggest prankster on set? Or is it sombre all the time? I didn't really witness any pranks specifically. Its a very playful environment though, definitely not sombre.
How is Jennifer Carpenter in real life? Fat sallyish? Jesus there are so many awful interpretations of 'fat sally' that I'm just going to ignore that completely. Cringe.
I never got to speak with her, but she was very beautiful, friendly and shorter than I imagined (probably about 5'6").
Was joking I freakin' love her. On another note, how tall are you? 5'7" without shoes and I was wearing 4 inch heels on the show.
Out of pure curiosity, what line of work are you pursuing in Oregon since you are no longer working in the entertainment industry? Good luck with your new direction in sounds like you are very happy about your move! :D. I am! Moving up here is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I am a yoga instructor and I have been training for a career in women's health for a few years but I didn't feel I had the space to pursue it until now. I don't want to say the profession specifically.
What kind of yoga do you practice? I practice and teach regular 'ol Hatha and I specialize in Pre/Postnatal yoga. I take quite a bit of inspiration from Iyengar, but I don't consider myself an Iyengar instructor.
Does Jennifer carpenter swear as much as she does off set? I don't think so. I never got to speak with her but I saw her around the lot a few times. Never did I hear an f-bomb dropped.
Have you taken any acting training or gone to any acting school? And do you know if directors/casting people value "acting schools" highly? My mom was an actor and put me in dance and acting classes when I was really young because she wanted me to appreciate it as an art and see if I would love it as much as she did. I had my first acting role and fashion show when I was 6 and I modeled and acted on and off for most of my adolescence. I attended the Gary Spatz school for a few months when I was a teenager. At one point I wanted to get more serious but my mom said I needed to graduate high school first. I graduated early and started studying film and theater at the local community college. I went through a rough period and felt too vulnerable to continue acting for awhile so I pursued modeling and had a successful career just 2 years later so I stuck with that and never fully went back to acting.
I think it depends on the school. If you're going to NYU or another school that is known for its film program you will definitely score some points. Casting directors ears perk up when you've studied with a reputable coach, but the proof is in your performance.
Do you find Quinn, Desmond to be hot? I find him to be a gorgeous man, the jawline seals the deal. Well he's certainly not unattractive. I love how sexy and protective of Nadia he is on the show, but I don't find him particularly striking. I'm with you on the jawline though!
Who was your favorite character on The Wire? I've actually never seen an episode :/ I know, I know, gasp all you want but I don't have cable!
Have you worked on any other shows or movies previously, or any big ones in the future? I was on this season of Bones. I was in a Taylor Hicks video once (yep, the dude from American Idol). I am an extra in a new zombie movie on Netflix called Dead Season. My first job was when I was 6 for a Sandra Bullock movie called Making Sandwiches, but I don't think it was ever officially released so I'm not sure if that counts. I did get to spend a few weeks with her and Matthew McConaghuey though! Nothing huge since modeling was always my focus, not acting, but models often get hired for film/tv work.
And none in the foreseeable future since I just left my career behind for a more fulfilling life in the glorious state of Oregon.
Have you been on any other TV shows? I was in this season of Bones but that's it as far as TV goes. Unless you count me being the "support" in the audience when my fiance was on Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader.
Was she smarter than a fifth grader? Reddit needs to know. I am sad to reveal that I am not a lesbian. He was not Smarter Than A 5th Grader, but he came close!
Awesome! How'd they do on AYSTA5G? Were they smarter than a 5th grader? He was close! He walked away with a few thousand.
Have you seen any films that any of the main actors have played in? I haven't actually. Any recommendations?
Thanks for doing the AMA, you're absolutely gorgeous by the way! How do you feel about Season 7, plot-wise, and character-wise? Thank you. I love the direction they're going and the character development is really fantastic. I never watched much of the show before but now that I know how good the writing is I might just have to go back and watch the previous seasons.
Did you meet the girl who played Nadia, Quinn's gf? Not officially, but we were in many of the same scenes together.
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